Dragon 1/35 King Tiger & Tamiya Kubelwagen diorama

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:50 pm

Ok my GB Entry which I finally get to start tomorrow.

This tiger will have a tri-tone Camo pattern, highly faded and weathered, although these late tigers would not have seen as much action as earlier tiger 1's it's still getting beat up

This is the Ultimate build of this tank for me (hence why ive spent over £220 on it now) and although its a late king tiger and wouldn't have had zimmerit mine has, late tigers also had a hard edged Camo pattern, mine will be soft edged and most tigers had the turret mg/cupola ring removed for ease of access, mine is present here. I'm not a rivet counter so don't care it's not 100% accurate date wise, I'm basically using artistic licence to build my favourite tank. A late king tiger with zimmeritt and soft edged Camo work.

So the kit and extras all that I'm waiting for is the photo etch, ammo boxes and mg34 belt ammo

The kit and sprues

Two sprues of these

There are three sprues of these

The kits extras, so metal barrel, wire tow roles some photo etch, and other bits too

Instructions

The Camo pattern ill be doing

All my aftermarket extras

Friulmodel tracks

Eduard zimmeritt

Aber side skirts

Aber front and rear fenders

Aber tool set

Aber barrel cleaning rod set

Tamiya shells

Elefant towing clevis

RB, bucket, towing shackles and mg34 barrel which is just a work of art

gosselin2112 · Post by **gosselin2112** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:28 pm

It will be a smashing build! Looking forward to it. I do like the Porsche turret better. But, hey, a tiger is a tiger. Meeeeooow

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:26 pm

I've built one of the the precursors to this kit, I think that all that they've changed was the addition/substitution of the transport tracks. I found all of Dragon's Kings to be great, if not complicated, builds.
I'm excited to see what you'll do with it.

I wish that I could join the GB, but my Little Shop of Horrors is, as yet, unassembled.
I have a build log of a 1/25 Tiger I that I did several months ago. That's as close as I could come right now.
I'll have to catch the next one.

bullgill67 · Post by **bullgill67** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:53 pm

best of luck with your build Paul

michael

PhildaFish · Post by **PhildaFish** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:22 am

This should be fascinating! I love to watch a build with all the bells and whistles thrown in!

Prumus99 · Post by **Prumus99** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:04 pm

This is gonna be great to watch this build as I have this kit on my shelf along with a few other king tigers.

Bagpiper · Post by **Bagpiper** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:22 pm

I guess I should wish you good luck too just so you don't feel left out

This really is looking set to be a very nice build mate.

Cheers
Jim

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:06 pm

Bagpiper wrote:I guess I should wish you good luck too just so you don't feel left out This really is looking set to be a very nice build mate.

Cheers
Jim

Thanks jim

Looking forward to getting this going, just got too many nice kits ive bought recently and want to start them all now

This and the tamiya mustang are next in line after the f4

DC87 · Post by **DC87** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:09 pm

I have wanted to build this kit since it's most recent updated release

so i shall watch with interest and fascination.

Best of luck.

schweinhund227 · Post by **schweinhund227** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:35 pm

Are you going to have enough time to put all those goodies on ??? man that's a ton of P.E.

Good luck with it ... She is a beauty !

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:38 pm

schweinhund227 wrote:Are you going to have enough time to put all those goodies on ??? man that's a ton of P.E.

Good luck with it ... She is a beauty !

Hell yeah I will, there's still more stuff on the way too

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:29 pm

Sheesh Paul, I thought that I was bad for spending twice what I paid on a kit on aftermarket.
I have a King Tiger that I've been saving until my shop is finished that I can't get the box back together because of all the resin and photo etch that I've stuck in it.
One day I hope that it will turn into Kurt Knispel's King, but it is not this day.
I'm really interested in seeing yours with all the extra's just before painting.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:32 pm

Coen wrote:Sheesh Paul, I thought that I was bad for spending twice what I paid on a kit on aftermarket.
I have a King Tiger that I've been saving until my shop is finished that I can't get the box back together because of all the resin and photo etch that I've stuck in it.
One day I hope that it will turn into Kurt Knispel's King, but it is not this day.
I'm really interested in seeing yours with all the extra's just before painting.

Yeah they look cool with all the PE on a naked tank

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:56 pm

Woah! Have you been doing a lot of overtime?! Lol!
I love the king tiger, this'll look awesome with all those extras! Enjoy.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:59 pm

chief5437 wrote:Woah! Have you been doing a lot of overtime?! Lol!
I love the king tiger, this'll look awesome with all those extras! Enjoy.

Cheers mate ha ha, my tracks have arrived too but I missed the posted will go pick them up tomorrow.

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:01 pm

Paul wrote:
chief5437 wrote:Woah! Have you been doing a lot of overtime?! Lol!
I love the king tiger, this'll look awesome with all those extras! Enjoy.
Cheers mate ha ha, my tracks have arrived too but I missed the posted will go pick them up tomorrow.

Friul tracks? Never used those, but always wanted some. So I'll be waiting to see you building yours!

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:12 pm

chief5437 wrote:
Paul wrote:
chief5437 wrote:Woah! Have you been doing a lot of overtime?! Lol!
I love the king tiger, this'll look awesome with all those extras! Enjoy.
Cheers mate ha ha, my tracks have arrived too but I missed the posted will go pick them up tomorrow.
Friul tracks? Never used those, but always wanted some. So I'll be waiting to see you building yours!

Yeah friul , fiddly to put together but worth it

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:54 pm

Just ordered a brass mg34 barrel, brass tow shackles and a photo etch mg34 ammo belt and box set.

Can't decide if I should add zimmeritt to this or not?

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:27 am

Paul wrote:Just ordered a brass mg34 barrel, brass tow shackles and a photo etch mg34 ammo belt and box set.

Can't decide if I should add zimmeritt to this or not?

I hope you're not staying up late, shopping on the sly while the Mrs is in bed?! Not that I've ever done that

PhildaFish · Post by **PhildaFish** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:30 am

Those shells are so cool! I'm loving this build already and you haven't stuck anything together yet!!!

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:33 am

chief5437 wrote:
Paul wrote:Just ordered a brass mg34 barrel, brass tow shackles and a photo etch mg34 ammo belt and box set.

Can't decide if I should add zimmeritt to this or not?
I hope you're not staying up late, shopping on the sly while the Mrs is in bed?! Not that I've ever done that

Ha ha busted, just bought the zimmeritt set

This thing is getting costly now

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:36 am

PhildaFish wrote:Those shells are so cool! I'm loving this build already and you haven't stuck anything together yet!!!

You don't how much I want to be this started, although I enjoy all modelling and recently have really enjoyed aircraft I'm an armour modeller at heart I think it's what I do best.

Want to get the F4 out the way before I start this and have got a couple hundred decals to crack on with first

Post by **Lee** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:15 pm

Tracks are the one thing that puts me off AFV...!!!

Good luck bro

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:19 pm

Almost all of my armour have Fruil tracks. You get pretty good at it after awhile.
I can do a set of 94 per side 1/35 Tiger Is in about 2 and a half hours now.
Don't lose hope!

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:27 pm

Lee wrote:Tracks are the one thing that puts me off AFV...!!!

Good luck bro

There probably one of the easiest things to do on armour

T3hGuppy · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:35 pm

Looks like alot of work but I'm sure the end result is so much better than the rubber band type.

This is going to be an epic build thread!

HamilkarBarkas · Post by **HamilkarBarkas** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:02 pm

I used Friul tracks only one time for my Hungarian Toldi tank from Hobby Boss. The tracks included in the Hobby Boss kit were aweful so i had to replace them.
The finished tracks look superb, but they took me an aweful lot of work to assemble. I prefer decent kits in the kit right away, it is also more benefical

However, Friul tracks always add a lot of detail to a model so it is never a bad idea to get them. Maybe you have a more efficient way to assemble them as i have, so this will be definately an interesting thing to see.

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:08 pm

Can't wait to see those tracks being built, but I guess I'll have a long wait. Lol!

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:16 pm

HamilkarBarkas wrote:I used Friul tracks only one time for my Hungarian Toldi tank from Hobby Boss. The tracks included in the Hobby Boss kit were aweful so i had to replace them.
The finished tracks look superb, but they took me an aweful lot of work to assemble. I prefer decent kits in the kit right away, it is also more benefical However, Friul tracks always add a lot of detail to a model so it is never a bad idea to get them. Maybe you have a more efficient way to assemble them as i have, so this will be definately an interesting thing to see.

I doubt that mine is more efficient than yours, I've probably just done it so many times.
If I remember correctly, the tracks on a Hungarian Toldi are almost the same as a panzer III.
Those are small and very fiddly, they take longer to do than the larger German cats.
If you've never done the Tiger II Fruils before you may even find them clunky.
They're huge.
A full run is massively heavy.
I worry that one day my King Tigers and my Jagdtigers will just fall apart under the weight.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:51 pm

chief5437 wrote:Can't wait to see those tracks being built, but I guess I'll have a long wait. Lol!

No you won't, I'm a fast builder

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:40 am

Still waiting!

Lee, I think we need a 'zzzzzzzzz' smiley!

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:19 pm

Right my proper pics have been added to the beginning of this thread and building begins tomorrow

The thread has been tidied up a little too.

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:42 pm

Holy moly! Just had a look at all the extras you've got for this build. There's enough to build a whole extra tank there! It's gonna be a beast!

Nige201980 · Post by **Nige201980** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:03 am

This is going to be amazing

Bagpiper · Post by **Bagpiper** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:29 am

I think you get the award for the most expensive build so far mate. lol Wow! That is an impressive amount of stuff.

Good luck with this one - it's going to look amazing.

Cheers
Jim

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:40 pm

Tell me about it jim, I'm at £150 in for all the extras now plus the £50 the kit cost me, so I hope I do this justice.

Finally started it this afternoon

So all the idler arms were tidied up and attached to the lower hull.

The instructions call for the road wheels next, I'll leave these of now,to make painting and weathering easier. Also with having so many aftermarket parts I've got several instructions sheets to relate too.

Next up the exhaust, the rear od the tank and the first piece of PE zimmeritt, which went on no problems at all. Superglued in place perfect.

Then the first real challange the rear fenders. The instructions called out for various hinges to be rolled on parts no bigger than 2-3mm wide and with a slither if wire inbetween allowed the fenders to move etc. I'm all up for realism but that's to much for me, so I used a bit of artistic licence and did it my own way. They don't move, but I think they look ok.

Half the parts needed for one side

Using my mission models folding tool and taking about two hours I got both sides done.

Also found a suitable german tanker from royal models in Italy and a nice mg34 for the cupola. A lot of king tigers didn't have a turret mounted mg, but mine is going too

You get all three but I'll be using the left hand one

T3hGuppy · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:52 pm

So nice to see you get started on this.

Epic build on its way!!

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:57 pm

Looking great already. That tank commander looks like an evil t£&t!

Nige201980 · Post by **Nige201980** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:09 pm

Looks fantastic mate looking forward to the rest.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:46 pm

That figure is awesome! So is that MG kits all in themselves.
I'm really impressed with how that etch zimmerit turned out. It will be interesting to see how it takes paint.

Tiger131 · Post by **Tiger131** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:00 pm

superb work with the zimmmer...and are those tamiya etch scissors any good

HamilkarBarkas · Post by **HamilkarBarkas** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:06 pm

Now it is rolling

The Zimmerit looks superb, used PE Zimmerit once and wasn´t too satisfied with the general look, it seems like they improved the look a lot in the last years.
You like PE don´t you? I hate those fiddly parts but they look superb when assembled with skill (which i don´t have). From time to time i try to train myself in the useage of PE parts, maybe i will get used to it at some point...? I´m glad however that my group build entry will feature only limited amounts of PE parts

HobbyModeller · Post by **HobbyModeller** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:09 pm

Wow that seems to be a lot of work but your doing it all justice well done

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:14 pm

Tiger131 wrote:superb work with the zimmmer...and are those tamiya etch scissors any good

Yes they work very well, being curved lets you gets right in the edge of the PE. I use them along with a scalpel blade to remove PE from the sprue.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:15 pm

HamilkarBarkas wrote:Now it is rolling The Zimmerit looks superb, used PE Zimmerit once and wasn´t too satisfied with the general look, it seems like they improved the look a lot in the last years.
You like PE don´t you? I hate those fiddly parts but they look superb when assembled with skill (which i don´t have). From time to time i try to train myself in the useage of PE parts, maybe i will get used to it at some point...? I´m glad however that my group build entry will feature only limited amounts of PE parts

I don't like PE that much I just want to make the most of this

and I have no skill with PE

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:24 pm

I think few people actually have "skill" with PE. I use it all the time and I despise it.
Unfortunately I can't argue with the results. The stuff really can make a difference.

Bagpiper · Post by **Bagpiper** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:35 am

This is just amazing already.

The PE is looking fantastic.

Nice work mate

Cheers
Jim

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:41 am

Thanks jim

Done abit more tonight.

Got the hull mounted mg sorted, had to drill into the gun mount to get the barrel the right length, this was then superglued in place.

The rb productions barrel next to the kit one

And glued into position

Both front sections of zimmeritt on and headlight in place, I'll add some wiring to it tomorrow

On to the side zimmeritt, a side arch mount needing removing at the front, the PE zimmeritt was them glued in place. Is was a tad tall on this side, so I trimmed it flush with the tamiya PE scissors.

And on the other side it was to short length ways, so I used some squadron white and my lion roar zimmeritt tool to fill the gap, it should look ok once painted.

Post by **Lee** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:03 am

Great start buddy

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:11 pm

Cracked on with the front fenders today and they were even more fiddly than the rears, they needed rolling to start with and were really tricky to glue. I just need,to add a little detail to where,they attach to the body.

I've done the right hand one as it should be and and added some damage to the left hand one, which I'll continue on down the side onto the first side skirt. As if the tank has hit something.

Also got the first side skirt on as,I wanted to see what it lined up like.