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Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:12 pm
by shortCummins
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this will be my effort...

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all sprue's in one bag, I do wish they wouldn't do that
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luckily it doesn't look as if there are any scratches
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two of these...
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two lots of PE
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and some very nice resin
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decals by Cartograf
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on first inspection this looks to be a very nice kit. The "extras", PE and resin, look to be very good and the choice of five "paint schemes" gives you a real flavour of this aircraft in the 50's.

now I'll have to decide on which scheme :tongue:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:28 pm
by HIghAltitudeScale
I have that kit and will be following along with the build, can't wait. :th:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:50 pm
by Avgas
Any idea what kit it's based on?

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:06 pm
by RoscoRSA
Avgas wrote:Any idea what kit it's based on?
Looks like its the same one Academy boxes, I have one I started last year, bit still unfinished. I will be doing a Mig-15 for this SiG as penance for not being patient enough. :cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:36 pm
by MarkVerploeg
Avgas wrote:Any idea what kit it's based on?
It is the Hasegawa Sabre according to Eduard

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:59 pm
by rwsmith14
shortCummins wrote:Image

this will be my effort...

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all sprue's in one bag, I do wish they wouldn't do that
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luckily it doesn't look as if there are any scratches
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two of these...
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two lots of PE
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and some very nice resin
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decals by Cartograf
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on first inspection this looks to be a very nice kit. The "extras", PE and resin, look to be very good and the choice of five "paint schemes" gives you a real flavour of this aircraft in the 50's.

now I'll have to decide on which scheme :tongue:
I see on the decal sheet one of the Options is for John Glenn's Mig Mad Marine !!! cool !! John Glenn is a former Marine Corps aviator, engineer, astronaut, and United States senator. He was selected as one of the "Mercury Seven" group of military test pilots selected in 1959 by NASA to become America's first astronauts and fly the Project Mercury spacecraft. On February 20, 1962, Glenn flew the Friendship 7 mission and became the first American to orbit the Earth and the fifth person in space,

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:52 am
by Avgas
He's also who John Tracy out of Thunderbirds is named after. All of the show characters were named after the Mercury Seven astronauts. Bit of nostalgia but I was off school sick when Friendship 7 blasted off and I remember watching it on TV 'cos my Dad brought the TV into my bedroom so I could see it, bless him.

I've checked my Academy F86 kit and it's not that one.

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:41 am
by TheTroyster
Gosh I love the look of this jet, they have one here in Denver:
And this model looks awesome!
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Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:25 pm
by shortCummins
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North American F-86 Sabre
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The North American F-86 Sabre, sometimes called the Sabrejet, was a transonic jet fighter aircraft. Produced by North American Aviation, the Sabre is best known as the United States' first swept wing fighter that could counter the similarly-winged Soviet MiG-15 in high-speed dogfights over the skies of the Korean War (1950–1953). Considered one of the best and most important fighter aircraft in that war, the F-86 is also rated highly in comparison with fighters of other eras.

Although it was developed in the late 1940s and was outdated by the end of the '50s, the Sabre proved versatile and adaptable, and continued as a front-line fighter in numerous air forces until the last active operational examples were retired by the Bolivian Air Force in 1994.

Its success led to an extended production run of more than 7,800 aircraft between 1949 and 1956, in the United States, Japan and Italy. Variants were built in Canada and Australia. The Canadair Sabre added another 1,815 airframes, and the significantly redesigned CAC Sabre (sometimes known as the Avon Sabre or CAC CA-27), had a production run of 112. The Sabre was by far the most-produced Western jet fighter, with total production of all variants at 9,860 units.

The F-86 entered service with the United States Air Force in 1949, joining the 1st Fighter Wing's 94th Fighter Squadron and became the primary air-to-air jet fighter used by the Americans in the Korean War. While earlier straight-winged jets such as the F-80 and F-84 initially achieved air victories, when the swept wing Soviet MiG-15 was introduced in November 1950, it outperformed all UN-based aircraft. In response, three squadrons of F-86s were rushed to the Far East in December. Early variants of the F-86 could not outturn, but they could outdive the MiG-15, although the MiG-15 was superior to the early F-86 models in ceiling, acceleration, rate of climb and zoom. With the introduction of the F-86F in 1953, the two aircraft were more closely matched, with many combat-experienced pilots claiming a marginal superiority for the F-86F. MiGs flown from bases in Manchuria by Chinese, North Korean, and Soviet VVS pilots were pitted against two squadrons of the 4th Fighter-Interceptor Wing forward-based at K-14, Kimpo, Korea.

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Many of the American pilots were experienced World War II veterans, while the North Koreans and the Chinese lacked combat experience, thus accounting for much of the F-86's success.

However, United Nations pilots suspected many of the MiG-15s were being flown by experienced Soviet pilots who also had combat experience in World War II. Former Communist sources now acknowledge Soviet pilots initially flew the majority of MiG-15s that fought in Korea, and dispute that more MiG-15s than F-86s were shot down in air combat. Later in the war, North Korean and Chinese pilots increased their participation as combat flyers. The North Koreans and their allies periodically contested air superiority in MiG Alley, an area near the mouth of the Yalu River (the boundary between Korea and China) over which the most intense air-to-air combat took place.

The F-86E's all-moving tailplane was more effective at speeds near or exceeding the speed of sound, so the plane could safely recover from a sonic dive, where the MiG-15 could not safely exceed Mach 0.92, an important advantage in near-sonic air combat. Far greater emphasis has been given to the training, aggressiveness and experience of the F-86 pilots. American Sabre pilots were trained at Nellis, where the casualty rate of their training was so high they were told, "If you ever see the flag at full staff, take a picture." Despite rules of engagement to the contrary, F-86 units frequently initiated combat over MiG bases in the Manchurian "sanctuary." The hunting of MiGs in Manchuria would lead to many reels of gun camera footage being 'lost' if the reel revealed the pilot had violated Chinese airspace.

The needs of combat operation balanced against the need to maintain an adequate force structure in Western Europe led to the conversion of the 51st Fighter-Interceptor Wing from the F-80 to the F-86 in December 1951. Two fighter-bomber wings, the 8th and 18th, converted to the F-86F in the spring of 1953. No. 2 Squadron, South African Air Force also distinguished itself flying F-86s in Korea as part of the 18 FBW.

By the end of hostilities, F-86 pilots were credited with shooting down 792 MiGs for a loss of only 78 Sabres, a victory ratio of 10:1. More recent research by Dorr, Lake and Thompson has claimed the actual ratio is closer to 2:1. The Soviets claimed to have downed over 600 Sabres, together with the Chinese claims, although these are thought by some to be an overcount as they cannot be reconciled with the 78 Sabres recorded as lost by the US. A recent RAND report made reference to "recent scholarship" of F-86 v MiG-15 combat over Korea and concluded that the actual kill:loss ratio for the F-86 was 1.8:1 overall, and likely closer to 1.3:1 against MiGs flown by Soviet pilots. Based on Soviet archival data, 335 Soviet MiG-15s are known to have been admitted as lost by the Soviets over Korea. Chinese claims of their losses amount to 224 MiG-15s over Korea. North Korean losses are not known, but according to North Korean defectors their air force lost around 100 MiG-15s during the war. Thus a total of 659 MiG-15s are admitted as being lost, all but a handful to F-86 Sabres, while USAF claims of their losses amount to 78 F-86 Sabres,. Of the 41 American pilots who earned the designation of ace during the Korean war, all but one flew the F-86 Sabre, the exception being a Navy Vought F4U Corsair night fighter pilot.

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John Glenn
John Herschel Glenn, Jr. (born July 18, 1921), (Col, USMC, Ret.), is a former Marine Corps aviator, engineer, astronaut, and United States senator. He was selected as one of the "Mercury Seven" group of military test pilots selected in 1959 by NASA to become America's first astronauts and fly the Project Mercury spacecraft. On February 20, 1962, Glenn flew the Friendship 7 mission and became the first American to orbit the Earth and the fifth person in space, after cosmonauts Yuri Gagarin and Gherman Titov and the sub-orbital flights of Mercury astronauts Alan Shepard and Gus Grissom. Glenn is the earliest-born American to go to orbit, and the second earliest-born man overall after Soviet cosmonaut Georgy Beregovoy. Glenn received the Congressional Space Medal of Honor in 1978, and was inducted into the U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame in 1990. With the death of Scott Carpenter on October 10, 2013, Glenn became the last surviving member of the Mercury Seven.

During the Korean War, Glenn was assigned to VMF-311, flying the new F9F Panther jet interceptor. He flew his Panther in 63 combat missions, gaining the nickname "magnet ass" from his alleged ability to attract enemy flak. On two occasions, he returned to his base with over 250 holes in his aircraft. For a time, he flew with Marine reservist Ted Williams, a future Hall of Fame baseball player for the Boston Red Sox, as his wingman. He also flew with future Major General Ralph H. Spanjer.

Glenn flew a second Korean combat tour in an interservice exchange program with the United States Air Force, 51st Fighter Wing. He logged 27 missions in the faster F-86F Sabre and shot down three MiG-15s near the Yalu River in the final days before the ceasefire.

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For his service in 149 combat missions in two wars, he received numerous honours, including the Distinguished Flying Cross (six occasions) and the Air Medal with eighteen clusters.

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Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:37 pm
by shortCummins
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I think that Eduard have done a really good job with their manual

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a wee bit of history about the aircraft

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spru map

building the aircraft...
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paint schemes...
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stencils
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additional PE and resin available
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mainly because John Glenn (a boyhood hero of mine) flew the aircraft I'll be attempting this scheme
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rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:05 am
by rwsmith14
Great choice !!! :thumb2:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:15 am
by patrickroos
Good luck John, and thanks for excellent presentation of the kit!
(as usual)

:pop:

:cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:13 pm
by shortCummins
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Thanks for the encouragement guys, here's a small update...

As with most aircraft we start with the interior.

The instructions suggest that the cockpit is flat black, well I'm going to use NATO black in the main and pick out the panels in flat black. I Had toyed with the idea of using grey, this is an option for one of the schemes but not the one I've chosen however, MarkVerploeg is building that version of the kit so it might be nice to see the contrast?

Anyhow I've used Ultimate grey primer, if you've not got any yet, what are you waiting for? go and get some
http://www.umpretail.com/collections/painting

fuselage interior, there's some PE to fit to each side so I've scraped off the original moulded parts
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the intake and exhaust will be sprayed prior to fitting so these get a coat of primer
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I'm not sure what happened, I must have been distracted :whistle: , but I didn't cleanup the ejector pin marks on the exhaust, I'll deal with them before painting them silver.

The cockpit also had a couple of raised details removed and the two square(ish) boxes, towards the back, are PE. You can also see that the instrument panel has had all of its detail removed in preparation for adding the PE
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While I had primer in the airbrush I decided to spray the ejector seat and other PE parts
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The detail in this seat is really nice, the only problem(?) is that its attached to a large casting block, I think I should have removed that before the primer, too late now but I will remove it before i do any more work on it
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more resin parts for the seat
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This is a really poor photo, I was trying to show how the primer has coated the PE leaving all of the detail
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So thats all for the moment, next I'll be adding "colour" to the cockpit and then the additional PE

until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:17 pm
by shortCummins
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well I've finally managed some time at the bench, here are my efforts...

I used Nato Black as the base colour for the cockpit
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IP and pedals, kit IP removed in preparation for the PE

Flat Black has been used for the instrument panel bases (doesn't show too well in the photos)
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next I used white as a base for the coloured switches
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colours added
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air-intake and exhaust injector pins filled
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Ultimate black primer (wonderful stuff)
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air-brake panels primered and masked
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Interior Green sprayed
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next will be adding the PE to the cockpit, adding colour to the air-intake and exhaust and nailing the fuselage together

until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:52 pm
by shortCummins
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so I've managed to get most of the cockpit PE added...
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I've used micro kristal clear to simulate glass for the instrument panel
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I sprayed the air-intake and exhaust Vallejo metal color - 77.707 Chrome and (the end of the exhaust) 77.723 Exhaust Manifold
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next up will be weathering the cockpit

until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:33 pm
by Always48
that is lloking great, love what your doing with the pit.

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:37 pm
by shortCummins
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I managed to get an hour on this build this afternoon and spent some time on weathering the exhaust...
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I used Tamiya weathering master set-D, I'm not sure how much of the "burnt blue" and "oil stain" shows up, probably even less once its buttoned up?

... also some wear and tear on the cockpit, not too much as I figured that these would have been reasonably well maintained
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I've started painting the air-brake panels and front wheel well
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hopefully I'll get some "bench time" this weekend and start to make some progress

until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 5:37 am
by snappercity
Looking good so far.

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 9:36 am
by Kevthemodeller
I just love these aircraft my favourite 50's jet closely followed by the Super Sabre. :th:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 5:36 pm
by shortCummins
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thanks guys :th:

the office is coming together...
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these Eduard PE sets really bring the cockpit to life!

finished detail painting on the panels behind the air-brakes
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...and wheel wells
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I'm sure most of you are familiar with resin "upgrades" (I'm not) but to my eye the level of detail is exceptional
not counting the seat-belts, there are 17 pieces, resin and PE, that go to building the ejector seat

I've used Ultimate grey primer as the finish will be black(ish)
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Tamiya XF-69 Nato black
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mig-203 light compass ghost grey
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Tamiya XF-64 red brown
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so next I'll be closing the fuselage and completing the ejector seat
until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:41 pm
by shortCummins
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I've spent the past couple of days building the ejector seat, 9 resin and 8 PE parts plus 10 PE parts for the seat belts, I built entire kits with less parts!

here are the destructions...
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so it makes sense (to me anyway) to split the build into subsections
1st I completed "K" and painted the main colours and added a little bit of dry-brushing to various parts
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next I did some of the "detail" painting, black stripes on the yellow, placard etc
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then I put together the seat belts
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here's the completed ejector seat
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I've put that to one side, next I'll be nailing the two fuselage halves together and adding the wings, before I do that I'm off to study MarkVerploeg's excellent build http://intscalemodeller.com/viewtopic.php?f=487&t=17433 to see the best way forward

until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:05 pm
by Smiffy
Awesome work so far John, that bang seat looks amazing :th:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:17 pm
by Lysus
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You could post reveals of just the seat I and place or win...amazing job, dude!

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:33 pm
by MarkVerploeg
Nice work on the seat
I didn't do the dry brushing on the sides
Mainly because i am building option B wich is the only one with a grey interior so i wasn't really sure wich color to use as white would be too strong (i think)

As for the fuselage
I think i kept it simple enough
I glued the airduct/cockpit piece in and glued a bunch of small fishing shot pellets on the top of the airduct (in front of the cockpit)
After a few testfits (some lead shot came loose a few times) i just closed it up and left it to dry for a while

Keep up the good work

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:36 pm
by TommyKillander
Ejection seat looks awesome! Great job!

I have still mine to do on the Starfighter... kind of procrastinating that I guess... :?

:cheers2:
Tommy

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:35 pm
by shortCummins
thanks guys, I've used Eduard PE previously but this is the first time I've used their resin, it won't be the last :th:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:01 pm
by shortCummins
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It was time to nail the fuselage together, having studied MarkVerploeg's build log, and following his helpful comments I decided to add the "nose-weight" and let it set overnight.
the peg at the back help keep the fuselage tipped forward, keeping the lead-shot toward the front?
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well it worked (mostly)
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one unexpected (because I didn't think it through!) result is some of the white PVA has settled below the air-intake, not a big deal as I used a toothpick to remove it.

I glued the wings together
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I sole Mark's idea of using cheep masking tape to clamp the fuselage halves together while the glue dried
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tape and pegs removed (looks so much like a shark!)
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it looks as if you'll get a good view of the cockpit once fully built
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I also have the same "opportunity to get better at sanding and re-scribing" as Mark
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the wings fit is first-class
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I thought I was being cleaver painting the wheel wells before fitting the wings to the fuselage, now I'll have to paint the fuselage bits that go to makeup the wheel well, not a big deal, just annoying
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A sharpie was used to check the seams
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luckily not a lot needs doing

the missiles had a couple of ejector pin marks that needed attention, once again nothing major
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after filling with Perfect Plastic Putty and wiping with a damp q-tip, job done!
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when I attached the wings it suddenly hit me what an iconic jet the F-86 is, it just screams 1950's "jet age"

here's an image from the animation "the Iron Giant"
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Next I have a little re-scribing, riveting and polishing and then I'll make a start on the rest of the cockpit PE
until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:00 pm
by MarkVerploeg
Nice progres
Maybe i didn't mention it in my thread but i used CA glue for the lead shot
That didn't work as good as i had hoped though
I dropped the Sabre a while back and i just managed to catch it before it hit the floor but the shock of me grabbing it was enough to smash some of the lead shot loose
So now it makes sounds when i pick it up

Keep up the good work

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:45 pm
by shortCummins
MarkVerploeg wrote:Nice progres
Maybe i didn't mention it in my thread but i used CA glue for the lead shot
That didn't work as good as i had hoped though
I dropped the Sabre a while back and i just managed to catch it before it hit the floor but the shock of me grabbing it was enough to smash some of the lead shot loose
So now it makes sounds when i pick it up

Keep up the good work
thanks Mark

I bet your heart was in your mouth! :eeek: at least you caught it :thumb1:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:01 pm
by MarkVerploeg
Well it is pretty sturdy so i don't think it would have much damage if it had bumped into the floor
But it wasn't a nice experience

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:12 pm
by shortCummins
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The re-scribbing took longer that I thought as I decided to "clean-up" all of the panel lines (and rivets) that had collected paint and other muck.

This isn't my idea, I saw it somewhere on the web (can't remember where) as this worked really well I thought I'd share.
use a pin as a scriber, the problem is holding/controlling the pin, here's a simple and effective method
select a pin and a "retractable pencil"
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I've used a Rotring pencil, but you can use any make

cut the "head" off the pin
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... and swap it for the pencil lead
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...you now have a retractable scriber thats as easy to use as a pencil :th:

Once I'd finished re-scribing it was time for some more PE
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this piece had approx 90% of the plastic removed
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to date this is just about the most complex PE I've done, I'm really happy with how it turned out, not as difficult as I'd imagined :bash:

Now I need mask the cockpit, wheel-wells and air-brake panels in preparation for primer

here's other bits'n'pieces stuck onto cocktail sticks in preparation for primer
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so I'm off to break out the masking tape
until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:01 pm
by Stokesy44
Mmmmm, that cockpit PE looks good. I like the scribing pencil idea too.

Very nifty.

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 10:19 pm
by shortCummins
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masking in preparation for the "top-cockpit" and "base" aluminium colour,I'll be concentrating on the cockpit for now
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cockpit primed
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Nato black for cockpit
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a little dry-brushing (dark grey) and gun-sight fitted
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canopy brace with added orange light
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next I'll add the canopy and masks in preparation for the base aluminium
until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:14 am
by RoscoRSA
:scratch:: Urm, your last 3 pictures were the same :scratch::

On topic though, this is coming together very nicely :thumb2:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 1:50 pm
by shortCummins
RoscoRSA wrote::scratch:: Urm, your last 3 pictures were the same :scratch::

On topic though, this is coming together very nicely :thumb2:
thanks RoscoRSA, I really must pay attention :bash:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:42 am
by RoscoRSA
shortCummins wrote:
RoscoRSA wrote::scratch:: Urm, your last 3 pictures were the same :scratch::

On topic though, this is coming together very nicely :thumb2:
thanks RoscoRSA, I really must pay attention :bash:
:cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:12 am
by Sturm
Yes! Excellent progress its turning out very well.Looks like a really great kit. I agree the Sabre screams "Jet Age" don't know about you but I LOVE cold war era planes.

"The Iron Giant" I remember that movie, saw it years ago in 2005 at a friends house. Flashback attack! :o

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:44 pm
by demarcation
Awesome work so far! :th:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:02 pm
by Lysus
Sturm wrote:Yes! Excellent progress its turning out very well.Looks like a really great kit. I agree the Sabre screams "Jet Age" don't know about you but I LOVE cold war era planes.

"The Iron Giant" I remember that movie, saw it years ago in 2005 at a friends house. Flashback attack! :o
Seriously, the best designs were from that era. Also, thanks for making me think about Iron Giant again... "Superman..." :(

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:30 pm
by mperegrinefalcon
Nice work so far! I will be watching this build. Quick question: How did you get the orange light to look like that? :cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:31 pm
by shortCummins
mperegrinefalcon wrote:Nice work so far! I will be watching this build. Quick question: How did you get the orange light to look like that? :cheers2:
the "light" is clear and I then sprayed a couple of thin coats of this...
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Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:37 pm
by shortCummins
Sturm wrote:Yes! Excellent progress its turning out very well.Looks like a really great kit. I agree the Sabre screams "Jet Age" don't know about you but I LOVE cold war era planes.

"The Iron Giant" I remember that movie, saw it years ago in 2005 at a friends house. Flashback attack! :o
demarcation wrote:Awesome work so far! :th:
Lysus wrote:
Sturm wrote:Yes! Excellent progress its turning out very well.Looks like a really great kit. I agree the Sabre screams "Jet Age" don't know about you but I LOVE cold war era planes.

"The Iron Giant" I remember that movie, saw it years ago in 2005 at a friends house. Flashback attack! :o
Seriously, the best designs were from that era. Also, thanks for making me think about Iron Giant again... "Superman..." :(
thanks guys
I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs waiting for the gloss primer to fully harden, I have "fun" with it lifting when I built my Mustang so I'm leaving it at least 48 hours before I spray the main aluminium colour as I'll be using several shades on different panels.

until then
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:27 pm
by shortCummins
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I temporarily fixed the canopy with some liquid mask and then sprayed Tamiya Nato black
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There's a gap between the front and rear canopies, I'll have to take extra care when spraying

Once that had dried I sprayed the "gloss primer" for the metallic base
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The primer I used was vallejo gloss black surface primer and I've got to say that I'm not overly impressed. It's probably me, but its very patchy, so much so that I've had to spray another coat. If only Badger/Ultimate did a gloss undercoat :whistle:

So I'll have to wait another couple of days for the second coat of primer to fully cure and then I'll be able to finally get a metallic coat down

until next time
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:14 pm
by MarkVerploeg
You could have used the Ultimate black primer though
Just gloss coat it before you do the metal
Vallejo primers can be a bit sensitive and peel off at times
They are no where near as durable as most other primers

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:43 pm
by shortCummins
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This update is all about laying down the NMF in its various guises...

First up was the base coat of vallejo acrylic metal color Aluminium 77.701
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Once that had cured, I left it 48 hours, the first “shade” was to be Mr Metal Color 213 Stainless, I needed to mask the machine gun panels and exhaust sections
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I’ve gone a wee bit overboard on the vallejo metal colors, I’d used a couple of them in a P51D build so I bought some more and this is the first chance I’ve had to use them!
So the first variation is Dark Aluminium 77.703
Masking...
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the result, this is quite noticeable
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Next would be White Aluminium 77.707
Masking...
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The result is less noticeable, even less so in the photographs
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Then it was the turn of Duraluminium 77.702
Masking...
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The result, this is very similar to the Dark Aluminium, perhaps a shade or two lighter (I’m not sure the photos show the difference?)
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Finally it was Dull Aluminium 77.717
Masking, I’d had to lightly sand down this panel due to scratches and dust scuffs
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so heres the completed NMF variations
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If your looking for an easy to use NMF then I can highly recommend the vallejo metal color range, their acrylic and work straight from the bottle :th:

After reading Mark’s issues with the decals,
http://intscalemodeller.com/viewtopic.php?f=487&t=17433
next I'll be adding the yellow with black stripes and probably also the black tail checkerboard

until then
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:39 pm
by Willem
Loving the variation you have achieved.

:cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:41 pm
by MarkVerploeg
Nice work on the metal John
I think you can see the difference between the white and regular aluminium
But you would need to zoom in quite a lot to see it
Atleast that is what i had with my build
Keep up the good work

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:18 pm
by shortCummins
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So I needed to mask for the yellow with black edges stripes.
The white tape is where the black outlines will be
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First I sprayed white, as a base, and then the yellow Mr Hobby (329)
When the yellow dried, 24hrs, I masked the yellow and sprayed the black outlines

there’s a little bit of seepage that I’ll need to address...
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...after that I start the decals

until then
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:19 pm
by shortCummins
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Decals,decals, decals...
I’ve spent the last couple of sessions applying the decals (cartograph). I first applied the “aircraft specific” identifiers and then the stencils
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by “modern jet” standards there aren’t too many stencils, however it did seam to take forever...
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next up will be some subtle? weathering

until then
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)

Re: Eduard 1:48 - Ultimate Sabre

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:53 pm
by shortCummins
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I’ve used a new (well it is to me) product, Tamiya panel line accent color
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I must say I’m quite impressed with it, easy to apply, short time before “clean up” and I think it works well, see for yourself...
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when I was cleaning the excess I dragged the q-tip in the direction of the air-flow, this has given a subtile weathering effect, I didn't want to "over weather" it as I'm sure that these aircraft were well looked after, even more so as it was John Glenn's aircraft and he was a bit of a celebrity even before becoming an astronaut?

here are some of the “smaller” parts that still need attaching to the aircraft
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I’m really pleased with the front wheel
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I’ve yet to remove the liquid mask from the rear tyres
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Normally I would use Ultimate washes, nothing wrong with them but I wanted to try something different. The only disadvantage, for me, of the Ultimate products is the time they take to dry, not really a disadvantage just takes a little longer. The other point is that you need to apply another “clear coat” to protect the Ultimate wash? 99 times out of 100 you’ll be adding additional weather so that won’t make any difference.

next up will be adding all the bits and bobs, removing the canopy mask and nailing the ejector seat into the office, so nearly done :banana:

until then
as always, any suggestions or comments will be gratefully received.
rgds
John(shortCummins)