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This is a first on a few fronts for me, this will be the first time I've ever built an FW190 in any scale, never built a Border Model kit and it's the first 1/35 aircraft kit. Which I believe is a new scale for aircraft certainly in my years, it always having been 1/48 or 1/32. This is going to be out of the box build, it comes with some PE and nice cannon barrels, I'm not a fan of all the cockpit PE, I find their a waste of money as you can't see 90% of it. That said, I do understand those who do enjoy their builds by adding it :th:

The kit does look good, the write ups/reviews are also all good to excellent :th: :banana: so here we go hope I can do it justice :cheers2:
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Looks a lovely kit, the Border L/48 I’m building has been really good!

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I really like Border stuff, hopefully you've got a good one there.

I think the 1/35 scale idea is so that you can go mad with a diorama
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Well you can go mad on a diorama or just go mad? I suppose you can get mad while doing a diorama too. I have read and watched several reviews on HK and Border models that show they are fitting well and have really good details. I think I'll have to get one.... or one of each (smile).
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DRUMS01 wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 1:51 am Well you can go mad on a diorama or just go mad? I suppose you can get mad while doing a diorama too. I have read and watched several reviews on HK and Border models that show they are fitting well and have really good details. I think I'll have to get one.... or one of each (smile).
Yeah I starting to think I'd like to do my FW-190A-6 from Border, but I won't I've set myself to do this Spitfire ( yeah I must be the only guy who hasn't built one ) some time ago and I would like to get it done.


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Quax wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 6:40 pm Looks a lovely kit, the Border L/48 I’m building has been really good!

Following with interest! :pop: :pop:

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Stokesy44 wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 10:53 pm I really like Border stuff, hopefully you've got a good one there.

I think the 1/35 scale idea is so that you can go mad with a diorama
Yes, I guess that would make perfect sense, wonder why it's not been done before, or has it? :think:
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DRUMS01 wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 1:51 am Well you can go mad on a diorama or just go mad? I suppose you can get mad while doing a diorama too. I have read and watched several reviews on HK and Border models that show they are fitting well and have really good details. I think I'll have to get one.... or one of each (smile).
The kit does look very good in all aspects, at least as good as the best that's currently available. The build when I start it will tell, hopefully not too long :th:
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We're off at last :banana:

Quite a detailed engine, very nicely moulded let see what it goes together like :th:

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Beautiful looking plastic :th:
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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Thats a nice looking kit
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great detail in the plastic, you're going to have fun painting that up! :banana: :banana: Will much of it show or just what's visible through the front of the cowling? :scratch::

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cor wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 6:32 am Thats a nice looking kit
Stokesy44 wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:53 pm Beautiful looking plastic :th:
The moulding is really good. The attachment points to the sprue aren't so cleaver. Very short and quite thick, making getting the cutting pliers in there tricky even with Tamiya's thinnest. Not a show stopper but you just have to be careful of the more thinner parts as they can twist and break as you cut.
Quax wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:58 am great detail in the plastic, you're going to have fun painting that up! :banana: :banana: Will much of it show or just what's visible through the front of the cowling? :scratch::
The kit allows for all the engine and other area inspection/maintenance covers to be open, so hopefully much of the engine will be seen :th:
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Engine sub assemblies
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Just had a look at the sprue shots full size, the surface detail is stunning. Crisp panel lines, beautiful restrained riveting. Should look amazing when painted.
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Great detail with tedious clean up, but I'd build it.
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Stokesy44 wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:38 am Just had a look at the sprue shots full size, the surface detail is stunning. Crisp panel lines, beautiful restrained riveting. Should look amazing when painted.
Yes that's true moulding is very good, but these sprue attachment points aren't, more on that later. :cheers2:
digger303 wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 2:05 pm Great detail with tedious clean up, but I'd build it.
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Thanks mate it's not too bad for areas that need cleaning up, it's more fit that's the issue, more on that later. :cheers2:
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Engine assembly, what a pain :roll: as individual sub assemblies they're fine, the cylinder banks fit ok, the induction manifold fits but the exhausts oh boy :wall:

Because of the of indexing of the cylinder banks the exhaust ports on the front bank are partly obscured by the rear bank of cylinders. The exhaust manifold is therefore shaped to accommodate this index/offset, however the manifold isn't really to scale and will not fit past the inlet manifold, go around the offset and under the cam feed oil pipe which bridges the V between each cylinder. Not without force it won't and I mean force :shock: This destroys the metallic finishes and damages/breaks the oil pipe. To make matters worse the instructions are really poor (look at page 3 section 1 above) there's no clear indication as to where the 4 exhaust manifolds fit in relation to the top or 12 O'clock position of the cylinders when it's in the fuselage. In fact the 12 O'clock position isn't shown anywhere! This is crucial as the main intake ring has to sit in a certain position as to the exhaust manifolds or either won't fit nor will the engine fit into the cowling. There are no pictures showing the correct relationship of these parts, just either back or front with the cylinders/engine in different index positions.

Then there's the fit, like Meng BMW I recently built, the fit is really interference in that you could actually assemble much of the engine without glue, i.e. a very snug push fit. The rear engine mounting ring has 6 little pins that locate into corresponding holes on the back of the inlet manifold, you can't test fit (not unless you either open out all the holes or reduce the pin diameters) and it has to go almost flush and it's tight. Hit each with extra thin and they slide in but they are not coming back out. This for me is highlighting the difference between Chinese kits and Tamiya, they are still someway off in my opinion. None of the above is a show stopper just spoils what is thus far a really nice kit :th:

Completed engine, just a few bits of tidying up with the plug leads to do, which I'll do once it is mounted in the fuselage :th: I wanted a in use/serviceable finish to the engine, as you can imagine this would mean clean ish, e.g. not covered in oil. Finding colour reference pictures of just that is very difficult, many of rebuilt totally restored or just ripped out partly assembled/bits missing museum display examples.
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Sprue attachment points. These are wide and short making cutting quite tricky, you've got to use sharp and thin nose snips, even cutting larger bits of main sprue doesn't really help. If you're not careful small parts will break off as you cut :(
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The last real puzzle is there's no indication as to paint colours for anything other than the out side! Not unless I've missed something? :think:
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The engine certainly made you work for it but it looks superb, great result :clap: :clap:
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:clap: :clap: You’ve done a good job on the engine considering the trials and tribulations you suffered! :shock: I would guess that interior colours are RLM 66 and 02

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Stokesy44 wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:50 pm The engine certainly made you work for it but it looks superb, great result :clap: :clap:
:cheers2: mate it's a shame the exhaust and fit engineering let down what is a lovely engine. I did take a look at my rotary engine in my Tamiya 1/32 Corsair F4U. I know it's bigger but you can clearly see the better engineering.
Quax wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:09 pm :clap: :clap: You’ve done a good job on the engine considering the trials and tribulations you suffered! :shock: I would guess that interior colours are RLM 66 and 02

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:cheers2: Paul thanks for the colour confirmations, it agrees with all the research I've done. I just find it odd, a big oversight really that there's no information, other than the outside, not the cockpit, engine, engine inner cowling, under carriage bays nothing :scratch::
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Like the others have said, I think you've done a wonderful job on the engine. The build and painting make it look the business. Sorry to see the silly large sprue connections. You would've thought we have come too far to have those kind of issues, especially for a newer and more expensive and detailed kit that it is (?).

The same can be said for the lack of any paint callouts, very strange. Perhaps some magazines, books, or queried online content will fix the paint instructions (?).

Even with these shortcomings, I'm confident that your excellent modeling skills will continue to overcome those issues.

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Sounds like the exhausts are a real bugger to fit, but you've done a marvellous build of it.
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DRUMS01 wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:51 pm Like the others have said, I think you've done a wonderful job on the engine. The build and painting make it look the business. Sorry to see the silly large sprue connections. You would've thought we have come too far to have those kind of issues, especially for a newer and more expensive and detailed kit that it is (?).

The same can be said for the lack of any paint callouts, very strange. Perhaps some magazines, books, or queried online content will fix the paint instructions (?).

Even with these shortcomings, I'm confident that your excellent modeling skills will continue to overcome those issues.

Oh!, I really like the snake markings.
digger303 wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 12:58 am Sounds like the exhausts are a real bugger to fit, but you've done a marvellous build of it.
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That engine looks amazing.
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cor wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 6:36 am That engine looks amazing.
You tell him Cor. Its an absolute beaut!
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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cor wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 6:36 am That engine looks amazing.
Stokesy44 wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:44 am
cor wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 6:36 am That engine looks amazing.
You tell him Cor. Its an absolute beaut!
Thanks guys you're most kind :th: :cheers2:
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I've been somewhat remiss in taking pictures and busy with other life stuff of late.

Starting on the cockpit, wings and fuselage
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Hopefully things will speed up now, I want to get this one finished and get on the group build :th:
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:th: :th: :th:
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Nice and tidy work :th:
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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Stokesy44 wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 6:59 am Nice and tidy work :th:
digger303 wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 12:31 am :th: :th: :th:
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Cockpit is I think done, I don't like over weathered finishes. If you think about it these would have been no more than months, possibly a year old, the attrition rate was very high by 44. Other than battle repairs, high traffic areas and outer surface paint wear, the aircraft would be pretty well looked after. The cockpits would be kept to a high standard by the ground crew, all the pictures I've seen of downed aircraft support that.
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The dial decals are two separate decals but each is one complete panel decal, it would have been a bugger to get to lay flat and align all the dials into their respective mounts. I cut each out and set them individually.
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Really nice work on the cockpit :th:
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The office is smicko
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I scrolled back to look at how much pe there is there and the answer is (apart from the belts) none! I think you've done a fantastic job on the detail :bow:: :clap: :clap:

now hurry up and get to Biffords 50th before its his 60th! :rofl: :rofl:

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