Meng B-17G Egg Bomber

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:54 pm

I got this for last years egg build but the timing was wrong for entering, so this year here we go
B17 kit

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:43 pm

Excellent! I was so bummed when you couldn't do last year, the 2015 reveal vid with your CD jewel case racer was the first one I watched after making it through Paul's 109 build. Then I signed up for the forum.

Looked at this one myself for this year but I went with what was already in the post (no new kits in 2017...). Was thinking about doing the "Friendly Persuasion" from the pilot episode of Amazing Stories:

I'm a little tapped out on scratch building energy to make the cartoon wheels, though, anyway

Hooray for more adventures in BMF! I'll try and be quiet over here and let you work...

krusty69 · Post by **krusty69** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:37 am

Lysus be quiet, that's a good one

Fridgy · Post by **Fridgy** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:55 am

Ooooo shiny!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:39 am

krusty69 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:37 am Lysus be quiet, that's a good one

He just has a nack for funny gif's and running up my post numbers....call it his gift

privatepete · Post by **privatepete** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:41 pm

Hi Scott where did you find this little beauty, looks like a nice little build, good luck with the build

Skullfish · Post by **Skullfish** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:46 pm

i dont know how many times ive nearly picked this one up....i may just yet.
Good luck on the build, following merrily along.

Jase

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:07 pm

privatepete wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:41 pm Hi Scott where did you find this little beauty, looks like a nice little build, good luck with the build

I think Hobby Link Japan...it was two years ago

I can barely remember yesterday...or was that today

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:12 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:07 pm
privatepete wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:41 pm Hi Scott where did you find this little beauty, looks like a nice little build, good luck with the build
I think Hobby Link Japan...it was two years ago
I can barely remember yesterday...or was that today

Pretty sure that's where I saw it.

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:16 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:39 am
krusty69 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:37 am Lysus be quiet, that's a good one
He just has a nack for funny gif's and running up my post numbers....call it his gift

Or my curse.

privatepete · Post by **privatepete** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:18 pm

Lysus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:12 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:07 pm
privatepete wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:41 pm Hi Scott where did you find this little beauty, looks like a nice little build, good luck with the build
I think Hobby Link Japan...it was two years ago
I can barely remember yesterday...or was that today
Pretty sure that's where I saw it.

Thanks chaps, guess what site I,m off to look at

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:50 pm

Lysus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:16 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:39 am
krusty69 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:37 am Lysus be quiet, that's a good one
He just has a nack for funny gif's and running up my post numbers....call it his gift
Or my curse.

Hilarious gift

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:50 pm

privatepete wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:18 pm
Lysus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:12 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:07 pm

I think Hobby Link Japan...it was two years ago
I can barely remember yesterday...or was that today
Pretty sure that's where I saw it.
Thanks chaps, guess what site I,m off to look at

Don't blame me!!!

WorldofPlastic · Post by **WorldofPlastic** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:56 pm

This should turn out brilliant ... Awesome idea for a little Egg bomber

!!! can it drop little egg bombs

WorldofPlastic · Post by **WorldofPlastic** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:01 pm

'Egg-splosive bombs' ... im sorry i just had to 'drop' that one in there

!!!

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:27 am

This will look great as an egg plane, don't envy the bmf though

good luck with it all

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:29 am

TackyGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:56 pm This should turn out brilliant ... Awesome idea for a little Egg bomber !!! can it drop little egg bombs

Shhhh

that was supposed to be the surprise

Skullfish wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:46 pm i dont know how many times ive nearly picked this one up....i may just yet.
Good luck on the build, following merrily along.

Jase

Not to jinx myself, but BMF is pretty easy. I did a whole scratch 747 in foil and glue.
Biggest problem here is anticipating the seam positions as the mould is all smooth with no rivets demarking the various panels

Edit: nope I am wrong, there are panel lines but no rivets. Need a little Rosy Riveter!

privatepete · Post by **privatepete** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:32 am

Hi Scott, found this little lot that some might be interested in, I hope you don't mined me posting this,sorry if you do.

https://www.blackmikemodels.co.uk/colle ... ids%20Kits

And yes, ordered this could not help it

my finger hit enter and that was that

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:55 am

privatepete wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:32 am Hi Scott, found this little lot that some might be interested in, I hope you don't mined me posting this,sorry if you do.

https://www.blackmikemodels.co.uk/colle ... ids%20Kits

And yes, ordered this could not help it my finger hit enter and that was that

Awesome Pete, glad to be of assistance lightening your wallet a bit. The Lanc is superb, good choice

No problem posting anything in my threads...it hides my lack of modelling skills
Hope,you get the kit soon for this year's build....maybe??

That is a dangerous website you linked there...I was up to 4 kits, FULLY drooling over them before I remembered I am on the wagon....no purchases

privatepete · Post by **privatepete** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:09 am

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:55 am
No problem posting anything in my threads...it hides my lack of modelling skills
Hope,you get the kit soon for this year's build....maybe??

It would have to be one hell of a post to hide that amount of skill

as for the build no don't do SIG or GB anymore sorry, but will be watching from the sidelines

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:11 am

privatepete wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:09 am
Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:55 am
No problem posting anything in my threads...it hides my lack of modelling skills
Hope,you get the kit soon for this year's build....maybe??
It would have to be one hell of a post to hide that amount of skill as for the build no don't do SIG or GB anymore sorry, but will be watching from the sidelines

Okeefine
Thanks for the kind words

Skullfish · Post by **Skullfish** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:59 am

privatepete wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:09 am It would have to be one hell of a post to hide that amount of skill as for the build no don't do SIG or GB anymore sorry, but will be watching from the sidelines

i say no more sigs or gb's either....ohh look a sci-fi sig, coughLysuscough, ohh an egg plane sig....

no will power, or for that matter staying power to finish the damn things,lol.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:51 pm

Right well I am all done, been a great build, thanks for coming out

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:31 pm

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:00 am

Actually four hours later...with lunch and some fooling around...not that kind, no

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:40 am

Curses! Foiled again!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:37 am

Lysus wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:40 am Curses! Foiled again!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:14 pm

Working on coloured portions of the wings and adding lead foil weight

Interesting thing I discovered with BMF...it takes Sharpie ink very well.
So I inked the BMF with red sharpie and then applied as normal. Burnished ok and then touched up any areas of rub off

I have used the black chrome BMF for the black areas....meh it is ok.
I think black felt on BMF might look better

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:11 am

Moving swiftly along

Showing a BMF panel application. I have cut this a bit larger than the area needed and then trim it back with super sharp blade. Burnish it down with the Tamiya cotton tip.

You can keep the trimmings for smaller applications, it will smooth out evenly if you are careful with it.
Almost done all the topside wings panels

Skullfish · Post by **Skullfish** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:58 am

Coming along nicely Scott.

J

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:14 am

Skullfish wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:58 am Coming along nicely Scott.
J

Thanks Jase

BMF is a bit tedious, but actually kind of fun.
My most hated part is all the little sticky cuttings that get all over the place and on me...Just like masking

Fridgy · Post by **Fridgy** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:53 am

I might have to get some and try it out one of these days.
You photos make it look easy......

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:44 am

Fridgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:53 am I might have to get some and try it out one of these days.
You photos make it look easy......

Flat surfaces, piece of cake, smooth as a lady's....well pretty smooth
The compound curves are a bit more challenging.
You gotta hide seam joints, not make the foil bend too much so it tears and then get everything smooth with no bumpies
I put the bits of aluminum down with thought of how the guys and girls would have done it when they made the big bird
I got her to here tonight:

Hard to photograph all that shiny stuff...glare,reflection and shadows. Going to need to break out the photo booth!
The engine cowlings are a B, not sure I like the cockpit frame either
And then I remember it is a flipping egg build for Easter fun

I am working out using BMF for WHEN I do a P51 in it
BMF does work really well for masking canopies. You can really smooth fine and see the mould lines

Fridgy · Post by **Fridgy** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:11 am

I'm picturing a "what if bmf" hornet with maple left markings..........

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:13 am

Fridgy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:11 am I'm picturing a "what if bmf" hornet with maple left markings..........

Maybe in hockey tape...or duct tape like Red Green

Spook · Post by **Spook** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:17 pm

Looking great Scott, that bmf is eggtastic.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:54 pm

Ok lets us see the progress from last night
Rear section of the tummy done in aluminum and black foiled the underside of the engine cowlings
Added styrene to cover the wheel wells as I am going to make her in flight dio
Got the wing tips red done top and bottom

and ya, photos, well lets see here, someone forgot to take them

oh well, now you wont be so bored with this build

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:18 am

Making sure I take photos of tonight's progress
Working on the belly

And all foiled up, other than black stripe on wing's leading edge

It is actually now quite a bit heavier with all that metal foil on it...has a good weight in your hand
Touch ups of colour and streaks to do after the top deck gets foiled

Stokesy44 · Post by **Stokesy44** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:33 pm

That looks oh so very cool.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:52 pm

Stokesy44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:33 pm That looks oh so very cool.

Thanks Stokesy

I was making airplane engine noises while test fitting everything.... really liking how it is progressing

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:13 pm

Agreed. I kinda want to try this...

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:18 pm

Lysus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:13 pm Agreed. I kinda want to try this...

It is pretty easy, kind of relaxing and fun. If you don't like something, just peel it back off
For aircraft you can make the panels and vary the look of them.

I am surprised at how quickly I dull the knife blades though...all of a sudden you are dragging through the foil rather than clean cutting.
I got in big trouble as I dragged my elbow through the cut off pile and carried hunks of foil all around her clean house...not a good scene

My missing airbrush shipment was the deciding factor for the foiling method.

Fridgy · Post by **Fridgy** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:44 am

I see that the Canadain postal service is as good as Australia post...

Took the 5 days to deliver my paints from one side of melbourne to the other....

Did the postie have to walk??

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:57 am

Fridgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:44 am I see that the Canadain postal service is as good as Australia post...

Took the 5 days to deliver my paints from one side of melbourne to the other....

Did the postie have to walk??

I have no idea what happened.
Got prompt shipped notice from kind folks at Ultimate, then nothing. When my spray booth arrived from the UK, I though, hey Ultimate order should easily have beaten that. Then inquire and find that it was undeliverable for some reason. We were open that day, no notice came, no paperwork, nothing. After 18 days they send it back...hopefully to the right address
NOT Ultimate's fault, it is all Canada post

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:09 am

Speaking of Canada post, I have to try to send that package again

USPS had it in BC in three days, four weeks later it came back. Weeks.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:38 pm

Raining Saturday morning, making new guns...brass and aluminum

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:04 am

Got foiling away and lost track of time...forgot to put dinner in the oven

big time oops
Top and bottom foiled, dressed up the ball turret and made a few more guns...next gotta try to get it all together

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:51 pm

I have got her pretty much all foiled other than a few touch ups after full assembly.
I have also done some decals.

This has been fun and all, really an exercise to see if I could do it and the full application of the technique.
BUT, I just watched Paul spray Mr Color GX2 metallics in a video review and though "why the hell go through foil???"

Another former ISM member on utube took forever, literally, to test spray a bare metal paint scheme on an aircraft and I was like, ok I have foiled this leasurly over the past week no problem compared to all that babbling, decanting and testing and retesting BS taking forever.
Metal gives a metal look....so foil makes sense. But, it is very difficult to wrap curves and some contours...wing ends for example are tough as foil folds on itself and then little bits chip out

rrrr

I will probably not do this on another aircraft as a full foil event, just details and certain areas . I love it on the dorsal surface of wings, using two different shades of foil...lovely.
The advent of new paints has made metal surface an easier process IMHO

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:07 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:51 pm

Another former ISM member on utube took forever, literally

Hm...I have a guess as to who that might be.

I have a 1/144 B-17 I desperately wanted to do at Christmas but couldn't. Was thinking of trying this but now maybe just on the flat bits

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:55 pm

Lysus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:07 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:51 pm

Another former ISM member on utube took forever, literally
Hm...I have a guess as to who that might be.

I have a 1/144 B-17 I desperately wanted to do at Christmas but couldn't. Was thinking of trying this but now maybe just on the flat bits

Exactly...on the flat bit. It is a dream on those nice flat spots with panel lines.
Next time, I would do a Mr Color spray on the entire aircraft and then detail the panels I want with foil

I could not make it through those videos...and in the end forgot what worked for him and what didn't

So slow