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Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:47 am
by digger303
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:12 pm
by TommyKillander
Thanks digger303!
Okay...
Things have departured a little bit....
But first thing first.... I have fixed the sinkmarks on the outrigger landing gears
I nomally use (
very conservative amounts of) TET to glue clear parts, and normally that works perfectly fine. I have used Micro Kristal Clear and CA-clue before - which both have their pros and cons... Anyway, I used too much TET on the front part, which caused a disaster
If this have happened 3-4 years ago I would probably have binned the kit or ordered replacement parts... But reading forums, watching YT and Facebook groups is a great way of learning.... so I thought that I should have a go at fixing it
First I try to clean off as much of the paint as possible using IPA
Sand down and fix the messed up IP cover...
Sand down the glue and melted plastic on the inside of the windscreen
It doesn't look pretty...
But after all the glue are sanded away we can start polish the surface using Tamiya Polishing Compounds
I used all three grades Coarse - Fine - Finish

There is still a very small streak in the glass that I can't get rid of without sanding down a lot material... But it's acceptable
The IP cover was fixed too
And we can glue in the windscreen - properly
Eduard masking set
It doesn't fit perfectly so I had to adjust it a bit.
Okay, I think we are back on track again!
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:27 pm
by Stokesy44
Its all the small things being done well - that's what makes a great result.
Got to admire your skills and dedication Mark

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:00 pm
by Hawkmoon
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:54 am
by digger303
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:38 am
by RangerNeil
Commiserations on the canopy - and an excellent save on that one. I just found to my own cost what can go horribly wrong with that particular element of a kit... Hoping I can save it as well as you have.
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:53 am
by TommyKillander
Stokesy44 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:27 pm
Its all the small things being done well - that's what makes a great result.
Got to admire your skills and dedication Mark
Thank you very much, David
Yeah, isn't it? That makes this hobby so great, there are always new things to learn
Thanks digger303
RangerNeil wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:38 am
Commiserations on the canopy - and an excellent save on that one. I just found to my own cost what can go horribly wrong with that particular element of a kit... Hoping I can save it as well as you have.
Thanks, hope you get yours sorted also
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:27 am
by Kevthemodeller
Good save their Tommy

I had something very similar with my Spitfire build

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:06 pm
by TommyKillander
Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:27 am
Good save their Tommy

I had something very similar with my Spitfire build
Thanks, Kev!
I'm pressing on with the build...
Masking the cockpit tub to protect it a bit...
Next step is to remove that annoying seam in front of the air intakes... I filled the gaps with liquid sprue some while ago and now it's time to sand it down..

It took a while because I had to be very careful, but I'm happy that this is done - this was one of the problem areas taken care of
...but don't worry, this kit has plenty of issues left that needs to be taken care of as well, so the rest of the build is still far from an "easy ride"....
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:59 pm
by TommyKillander
Hey Guys!
One more short update
Instructions says there should be a small airscoop on the side of the canopy (E14). But that part is a big blob that can't possibly be the right one...

EDIT: ...or it
is the "right" part - and in that case something have gone horribly wrong over at the Kinetic factory (again)
So I will scratchbuild one instead
Some PE goodies...
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:54 am
by DRUMS01
Looking good Tommy...
I like your attention to detail with the PE.
Your work on the canopy has seems to fix the issue, good job!
Ben
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 7:45 pm
by TommyKillander
DRUMS01 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:54 am
Looking good Tommy...
I like your attention to detail with the PE.
Your work on the canopy has seems to fix the issue, good job!
Ben
Thanks Ben
Awwrajt! It's time to throw some paint onto this bird again...
Primed with Ultimate Grey Primer
Painted with Gunze H308
Wheels Primed with Ultimate White Primer (and some XF-2 White)
The masking set from Eduard didn't include any masks for the center- and nose-wheels, so I made my own set using the Silhouette Portrait. It took 5 minutes in total to setup the printer, draw some circles in Silhouette Studio and cut them using a scrap piece of masking sheet...
I tested a thing that have been buzzing around on the Internet; How to re-activate and brushpaint Molotov Chrome.
The idea is to put a couple of drops of crome paint on a palette and mix it with a drop of MrColor Levelling Thinner. The nice thing is that you can reactivate the paint after it has dried up using a MLT, so you can basically have a small palette with chrome on the shelf and you just add a drop of MLT when you want to paint something
The result is outstanding!
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 12:39 am
by digger303
Progressing along nicely.
Silhouette Portrait interests me as a bench tool to have....just can't quite see myself clear to that yet.
Thanks for the good tip on the chrome pens and if I could just add you can buy the 30ml refills and use them through a airbrush plus of course topping up your own pen.

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:24 am
by TommyKillander
digger303 wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 12:39 am
Progressing along nicely.
Silhouette Portrait interests me as a bench tool to have....just can't quite see myself clear to that yet.
Thanks for the good tip on the chrome pens and if I could just add you can buy the 30ml refills and use them through a airbrush plus of course topping up your own pen.
A Silhouette is one of those tools that isn't neccessary to have, but once you get one it's hard to understand how you could get by without it, if that makes sense...
Great tip about the chrome refills, I'm curious to try airbrushing it...
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:43 am
by Hawkmoon

Hi Tommy all looking good on the kit
I spray Molatow all the time and as long as you do it in a certain way all will be fine. Clean the part and then use your favorite pressure setting around 20 psi should be fine. Some people like to use a semi gloss black or gloss black as an undercoat but I have found there little if difference in the result if you dont undercoat. First spray a light coat of Molatow to cover the part and leave for a couple on minutes then put down a very wet coat on top of it. Next you must not touch that part for a minimum of 3 days so it cures properly any contact before that will ruin the finish.
As an example of sprayed Molatow take a look at the fuel vortices on the Jaguar I am building right now, link below-
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=28393
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:41 am
by TommyKillander
Hawkmoon wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 7:43 am

Hi Tommy all looking good on the kit
I spray Molatow all the time and as long as you do it in a certain way all will be fine. Clean the part and then use your favorite pressure setting around 20 psi should be fine. Some people like to use a semi gloss black or gloss black as an undercoat but I have found there little if difference in the result if you dont undercoat. First spray a light coat of Molatow to cover the part and leave for a couple on minutes then put down a very wet coat on top of it. Next you must not touch that part for a minimum of 3 days so it cures properly any contact before that will ruin the finish.
As an example of sprayed Molatow take a look at the fuel vortices on the Jaguar I am building right now, link below-
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=28393
Cool! That looks awesome
I will try when the next opportunity comes around
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:04 pm
by Tomcat64
Awesome work Tommy - I was hoping you were still working away on this one
Interesting tips with the chrome too - they've been filed away for future use!
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 2:14 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Now that's a very handy tip

Tommy

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 1:33 pm
by TommyKillander
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 1:48 am
by digger303
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:04 am
by Hawkmoon

Very nice work there Tommy

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:58 am
by Stokesy44
Cracking detail work

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 10:14 am
by Kevthemodeller
Superb detailing on the landing gear

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 10:07 am
by Tomcat64
I can only echo what the other guys have already said, Tommy, that's just jaw-dropping work detailing the undercarriage

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 6:54 pm
by TommyKillander
Thanks a lot for the encouragement and the kind words, I really appreciate that !
Ok, so the build have finally reached the worst part IMO; fitting the air intakes, aux inlets and the blow in doors.
I started by scratchbuilding the blow in doors
..and painted them in Gunze H335 (BS381C/637), which will be the cammo colour.
After that I had to touchup the paint of the air intake
I started to do some masking while paint was curing
After that I fitted the doors
And continued with masking....
Fitting the airscoops
More masking
The fit around the aux inlet ports are horrible, so the next step will be to fill, sand and touch up the paint before I can mask the inlets as well...
...BUT, we are one step closer to paint!
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 7:09 am
by Hawkmoon

More trails and tribulations but your getting there and nice work
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 10:47 am
by Tomcat64
Great to see it heading towards the final build stages Tommy and all your hard work is paying off now as those intake doors look great!
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:57 am
by Kevthemodeller
More superb detailing work there Tommy

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:30 pm
by TommyKillander
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:10 pm
by RangerNeil
Wow! That is one hell of a gap at the front of the wing/fuselage join!! As bad the one I had on the Mi-1...

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:38 am
by digger303
Pack it out with some plastic strips I guess. Damned disappointing in the age of computer design , cad programs and cnc machines that crap like that occurs. Kits that everyone in the chain of production down to the modeler invests hard earned cash and TIME that is invariably flawed.

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:27 am
by Hawkmoon
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:38 am
by Tomcat64
Man they really did reach for the big bucket of "things that could be wrong" with this one didn't they?
Hope you manage to get this straightened out Tommy, it really becomes a battle between determination to see it done, or just walking away sometimes.
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:16 pm
by Tomcat64
Hej Tommy! I've decided to close down the Hovering SIG for the end of July so just a month to go if you can face battling this beast into submission

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:48 pm
by TommyKillander
Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:16 pm
Hej Tommy! I've decided to close down the Hovering SIG for the end of July so just a month to go if you can face battling this beast into submission
Thanks for the heads-up, Neil.
I will give it a go

Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:20 pm
by TommyKillander
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:09 pm
by TommyKillander
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:11 pm
by Kevthemodeller
I had a similar issues with the wind splitter's on my current build Demon, not as bad and not all of them. I used thick CA, worked for me.
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:53 pm
by BigWall
Nice detail bits!
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:18 pm
by TommyKillander
Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:11 pm
I had a similar issues with the wind splitter's on my current build Demon, not as bad and not all of them. I used thick CA, worked for me.
Great tip, I will try that. Thanks Kev!
BigWall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:53 pm
Nice detail bits!
Thanks!
Ok... final masking before paint is done.
Black primer - finally!
There are some overspray/dust that I need to take care of
But the rest looks OK!
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:56 pm
by Stokesy44
Must feel good to get the primer on. Looks great.
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:27 am
by digger303
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:34 am
by TommyKillander
Stokesy44 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:56 pm
Must feel good to get the primer on. Looks great.
Thanks

Yeah, it feels good to leave the "building-phase" behind.
Thanks, there are some rough surfaces on the top of the wing section. But I will fix that with a 3000 grit sanding sponge; a couple of strokes should be enough.
I will use the black basing technique so next step will be to do the marble-coat.
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:18 pm
by bfrd
Looking great Tommy! You would never know there were any fit issues at all. Looks like a Tamiya kit now that it is in primer.
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:02 pm
by Kevthemodeller
The Ultimate primer goes on a real treat, doesn't it. A very gentle rub down with some 6000 - 8000 wet/dry will sort the areas of over spray out

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:18 pm
by TommyKillander
bfrd wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:18 pm
Looking great Tommy! You would never know there were any fit issues at all. Looks like a Tamiya kit now that it is in primer.
Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:02 pm
The Ultimate primer goes on a real treat, doesn't it. A very gentle rub down with some 6000 - 8000 wet/dry will sort the areas of over spray out
Thanks Matt and Kev
Yeah, Ultimate primer is awesome - makes any crap kit look like a Tamiya
It will be a really tight squeeze to make it to the deadline, unfortunately
I'm on vacation now and I will go to our familys summer-house a bit up north in Sweden (Värmland) for a couple of days or so. But I will do my best to finish it when I get back.
Tommy
Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:17 am
by digger303
TommyKillander wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:18 pm
bfrd wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:18 pm
Looking great Tommy! You would never know there were any fit issues at all. Looks like a Tamiya kit now that it is in primer.
Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:02 pm
The Ultimate primer goes on a real treat, doesn't it. A very gentle rub down with some 6000 - 8000 wet/dry will sort the areas of over spray out
Thanks Matt and Kev
Yeah, Ultimate primer is awesome - makes any crap kit look like a Tamiya
It will be a really tight squeeze to make it to the deadline, unfortunately
I'm on vacation now and I will go to our familys summer-house a bit up north in Sweden (Värmland) for a couple of days or so. But I will do my best to finish it when I get back.
Tommy
enjoy the break

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:40 am
by Hawkmoon

Have a nice break Tommy

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:13 am
by Tomcat64
Awesome work to finally get it to primer Tommy!
Enjoy your break and look forward to seeing it finished off when you get back
Don't worry about the deadline though

Re: Kinetic 1/48 Sea Harrier FA.2
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:45 pm
by TommyKillander
Thanks Guys,
I'm back after spending a week with the family and my sisters family. Great weather and lot's of out-door activity. But at the end of the week I was really longing for my workbench (and the brand new PRUSA MINI 3D printer that I just got)
Anyway, here's todays progress sofar:
Painted the air data probes with metal (the colour looked something like titanium or duraluminium on ref photos)
Sanded and polished the rough surfaces (it was overspray)
Painted the exhausts and heatshield with a mix of ALC-104 Pale Burnt Metal and ALC-113 Jet Exhaust (ratio 5:1) as a base colour
Misted a filter made from highly diluted XF-84 Dark Iron
I will gloss the heat-shields to protect the paint (and prepare them for weathering) before I proceed with the next step
Tommy