Ammo Paints - Important please read

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Its ironic if you pause the youtube video you sent at 2:47, you can see lots of very fine orange peel on the "good" spoon. Mind you, this is youtube quality done by professionals, and his product is still Brad Pitt.

of course he can keep bashing and blaming the customers for not going thin enough, so how thin do I need to go? 10 coats? 20? 100 hours drying time between each coat? I can get a good finish with a children's art set if I lay it over 100 coats over 1000 days, but doesn't change the fact that its Brad Pitt.

The reason Tamiya and Vallejo is superior is because they allow the same results in a single coat, and without the customer bending all the way back with bullshit explanations of surface tension and thin coats.

Also, his grey primer, red and black which I used for the interior was fine, and I put that on even thicker than these coats. His cream gave the same Brad Pitt effect, so it's very obvious it's the paint and not muh thin coats. It's easier to bash the customers for using an inferior product, than it is to improve it

Either way, its crushed under a stack of rotting food in the trash. I might fish out the tank if I feel like it tomorrow, but I wouldn't even touch any of the ammo paints. 50 hours to end in frustration, could have spent some quality family time.
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I can find you just as many people complaining about Tamiya and Vallejo and just about any other paint until they learn how to use it. That said there's a certain amount of personnel preference as with anything, hence why there's so many different paint suppliers after all if one was soooo much better than the rest we'd all be buying and using it.

Now what I'm wondering, as you're obviously not going to even consider it my be you, is if Tamiya and Vallejo "do it in one coat" as you say which is hinting at your experience, why did you bother with Ammo Mig and not stick to what you know works for you?

Throwing it all in the bin isn't going to solve the issue either!
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You know what? You're right after all. My sincere apologies.

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This is what it feels like to be an donkey.

My wife told me to fish out all the stuff I threw out and give it one last spin, instead of throwing out good money, which I did.
Mig wants coats, so I'll give him coats. This is the result of 7 extremely light coats. Didn't sand back, didn't do anything. They're light enough that pre-shading shows through strongly despite so many coats. I immediately pulled the airbrush away the moment I see even a tiny hint of paint.

Glad the model is saved, glad my money is saved, glad I didn't have to sand back the fisheyes, but I feel like a total and complete donkey. Sent them a grovelling apology email.

Seems like there's a trick to using them, just extremely light coats.
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Dingobattler wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 12:32 am You know what? You're right after all. My sincere apologies.

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This is what it feels like to be an donkey.

My wife told me to fish out all the stuff I threw out and give it one last spin, instead of throwing out good money, which I did.
Mig wants coats, so I'll give him coats. This is the result of 7 extremely light coats. Didn't sand back, didn't do anything. They're light enough that pre-shading shows through strongly despite so many coats. I immediately pulled the airbrush away the moment I see even a tiny hint of paint.

Glad the model is saved, glad my money is saved, glad I didn't have to sand back the fisheyes, but I feel like a total and complete donkey. Sent them a grovelling apology email.

Seems like there's a trick to using them, just extremely light coats.
I experienced the same problems you did in the beginning. I was expecting complete coverage right out of the gate and didnt like the idea of multiple thin coats. I figured it would waste a ton of the paint and I'd have to buy multiple bottles to complete one kit.
After I did as you, and slowed down and retrained myself to put only very thin coats and let them dry briefly before the next did I find that they actually do produce a nice finish.

I will say, that most of my paint on my shelf is Ammo product. I still use some Tamiya and Mr. Color paints as some of their colors just cant be done the same. I am finding that I am starting to use a wide variety of paint manufacturers lately. Everything from AK Interactive, to Ammo, Mr. Paint, Alclad, etc. I've realized that no one, single paint will do everything I want.
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Dingobattler wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 12:32 am You know what? You're right after all. My sincere apologies.
Glad you sorted it :th:
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