Vincent Black Shadow Revell 1/12

[Johnj]

Uhhh Houston, this is Tranquillity Base… we have a problem

Unauthorized cat snooze on the model bench chair, please advise
Subject is currently bathing after filthy hand pets happened

Scott, i'm wondering why you have a garlic nan bread sitting on the chair untill i zoomed in..... sh1t, someone has swapped it for a cat lol

[Twokidsnosleep]

Uhhh Houston, this is Tranquillity Base… we have a problem

Unauthorized cat snooze on the model bench chair, please advise
Subject is currently bathing after filthy hand pets happened

Scott, i'm wondering why you have a garlic nan bread sitting on the chair untill i zoomed in..... sh1t, someone has swapped it for a cat lol

Dat cat I tell you
She sleeps in all three of my chairs…living room, dining room and model room
She also jumps up right into the action on the desk when she needs attention

[Twokidsnosleep]

Cracking build and thread.

I have no idea what's going on but my mind tells me I likes it!

The funny thing is mate, I could walk you through this engine now and many of it’s cool idiosyncrasies
It is the deep dive into a subject that makes modelling fun…researching and learning about it
I spent a couple full days watching videos and looking at photos and articles on the Black Shadow

[Stokesy44]

Cracking build and thread.

I have no idea what's going on but my mind tells me I likes it!

The funny thing is mate, I could walk you through this engine now and many of it’s cool idiosyncrasies
It is the deep dive into a subject that makes modelling fun…researching and learning about it
I spent a couple full days watching videos and looking at photos and articles on the Black Shadow

Its great when the hobby becomes totally immersive like that. You get swallowed up by the build and it becomes so much more than simply following instructions. Not quite the Odyssey but certainly a journey along a path seldom trod.

[Casper]

Shame about your Ipad scott
Bikes looking brilliant with all the pipework.

[Twokidsnosleep]

Shame about your Ipad scott
Bikes looking brilliant with all the pipework.

Cheers mate, hope the job is going ok
We got a rainy weekend here, so after I get the paperwork and such done at the office Saturday I will get some bench time too
I snuck a little in this morning and had to re-cement the frame-engine-fork assembly as it all popped apart
I am on to the fuel delivery, carburetors, fuel tank systems. I at least understand where everything has to go, just have to make the lines and the connections
Again lots of fiddliness. Film at eleven

[Twokidsnosleep]

Here is Saturday’s work: fuel system
Right side carburetor, fuel filter, petrol line and stop cock that goes to the bottom of the tank
This is the reference pic of the real bike, which is unbelievably clean


Mine dry fitted still as lots of adjustment needed to fit tank on and tubing in.






The left side connects to the right via a fuel line that runs under the tank and links the two carbs/filters so both sides of the gas tank supply both carbs. Both sides have a fuel shut off valve= stop cock.
Mine are made from watch parts…it was a second hand I think





Yellow and red lines are battery leads are also visible but not routed yet

Reference for that side

[Stokesy44]

Great work. Fascinating to compare the kit to the real thing. The authenticity of the detail work is awesome.

[Twokidsnosleep]

Great work. Fascinating to compare the kit to the real thing. The authenticity of the detail work is awesome.

It is so nice to have some good clean photos
The videos I have watched helped tons as well….wonderful English chap living in Oregon, USA restoring his Vincent Rapide

[Stokesy44]

Great work. Fascinating to compare the kit to the real thing. The authenticity of the detail work is awesome.

It is so nice to have some good clean photos
The videos I have watched helped tons as well….wonderful English chap living in Oregon, USA restoring his Vincent Rapide

That has to be the ultimate reference material. You cant beat a modern restoration.

[cor]

wow. you're putting the effort in on that. amazing work.

[Mpfiend]

really nice work, this is going to be a stunner.

[Casper]

Superb work scott, that engine is really coming alive with all the superb extras. Love the stop valves, great idea

[kpisnuts]

Incredible work going on here mate

[BigWall]

Absolutely magnificent detailing!

[Twokidsnosleep]

Thank guys



Woah, a bit tipsy now

[RangerNeil]

This is an amazing build... I remember the old Matchbox kits so can appreciate all the issues you have hit - and overcome with style!! Really looking forwards to seeing the finished item!!

(Do feel obliged to point out that if you modded a real Black Shadow like that here in the UK the owners club would likely have you dangling from a lamp post!!)

[Twokidsnosleep]

Messing with the petrol tank now
The engineering of this bike is very interesting
The oil tank is a triangle around the main frame above the engine. The gas tank straddles this tank and has an oil cap and a petrol cap



For the two caps, I used my watch parts again and will use the gold one for the oil cap and the silver for the petrol





Hoping to get the tank 2k cleared the coming weekend....but time and amount of clear I have remaining may say otherwise

[Twokidsnosleep]

Loose fit of rear wheel, chain and guard

I have to use the chain guard as the top portion of the chain is non existant

[Stokesy44]

That is looking sweet

[Casper]

excellent work scott
Great use of watch parts for the tank caps

[Kevthemodeller]

The engine and fuel system detailing is superb Scott

[Twokidsnosleep]

Thanks guys


I am pretty happy with the bends in the metal tubing for the oil bleeder system
Carbs are almost done too
I’ve Been trapped in the 3D printing world

[Twokidsnosleep]

Going so slow on my modelling, very embarrased

Tested out the exhaust system
I wrapped the pipes in black hockey tape and just posed them rough to decide options for the length of the pipe
I am thinking to make it shorter







My thought is to cut the pipe short at the silencer buldge.
Maybe finish the black where I have and make a polished aluminum section with a slight flare out for the rest
Thoughts and input welcomed

[BigWall]

The hockey tape looks brilliant!

I agree, cut it at the muffler and a bit of polished aluminum would add some good interest. I think a straight pipe rather than a flared end would look better though.

[digger303]

The hockey tape is a nice touch. Will it take paint ?

[Twokidsnosleep]

The hockey tape is a nice touch. Will it take paint ?

It could, but comes in numerous colours

[Twokidsnosleep]

The hockey tape looks brilliant!

I agree, cut it at the muffler and a bit of polished aluminum would add some good interest. I think a straight pipe rather than a flared end would look better though.

Ya good thoughts

[digger303]

Thanks guys


I am pretty happy with the bends in the metal tubing for the oil bleeder system
Carbs are almost done too
I’ve Been trapped in the 3D printing world

Sprue cutters union podcast episode 5 has some back ground about 3d printing.

[Twokidsnosleep]

Thanks guys


I am pretty happy with the bends in the metal tubing for the oil bleeder system
Carbs are almost done too
I’ve Been trapped in the 3D printing world

Sprue cutters union podcast episode 5 has some back ground about 3d printing.

I don’t know what that is, can you direct me with a link?

[digger303]

Thanks guys


I am pretty happy with the bends in the metal tubing for the oil bleeder system
Carbs are almost done too
I’ve Been trapped in the 3D printing world

Sprue cutters union podcast episode 5 has some back ground about 3d printing.

I don’t know what that is, can you direct me with a link?

Sure.....here it is...https://spruecuttersu.buzzsprout.com/

[Twokidsnosleep]

Thanks @digger303 I will have a listen…not my favourite person mind you, bit full of himself

So straight pipe choices are copper or aluminum. Both would be polished to shiny. I like them both

[Casper]

loving the pipework scott tape works a treat

[Twokidsnosleep]

loving the pipework scott tape works a treat

Thanks
Think we are going shined aluminum straight pipe…it fits the best

[Twokidsnosleep]

Working the straight pipe, the wheel stripe and a seat post





Shite my rear tire is cracking

[digger303]

Hells bells ya got got a flat.....sorry I shouldn't be flippant I know it would have torn you apart.
It's the reason I don't like vinyl/rubber tyres or tracks plus paint can attack them too.
Can you get a resin replacement ?
The chrome straight exhaust was definitely the best choice for a truly excellent build.

[Twokidsnosleep]

Hells bells ya got got a flat.....sorry I shouldn't be flippant I know it would have torn you apart.
It's the reason I don't like vinyl/rubber tyres or tracks plus paint can attack them too.
Can you get a resin replacement ?
The chrome straight exhaust was definitely the best choice for a truly excellent build.

I will CA glue it back together

[DRUMS01]

Love the work so far. Its sad to see the tire cracking. I had that happen to an older revival kit and it went into four pieces. I used CA glue to reassemble mine too. It had to be applied in several layers. The first to set the tire and the others to fill the void with only minimal rework of the tread pattern.

If you do not like the CA glue method, perhaps you can cast them yourself using the old ones as the master?

I agree with the digger on the chrome straight pipe; it balances the chrome accents of the engine and the spoked wheels.

Good luck on the rear tire.....

[Twokidsnosleep]

Love the work so far. Its sad to see the tire cracking. I had that happen to an older revival kit and it went into four pieces. I used CA glue to reassemble mine too. It had to be applied in several layers. The first to set the tire and the others to fill the void with only minimal rework of the tread pattern.

If you do not like the CA glue method, perhaps you can cast them yourself using the old ones as the master?

I agree with the digger on the chrome straight pipe; it balances the chrome accents of the engine and the spoked wheels.

Good luck on the rear tire.....

Cheers
Ya, I will get her shoes fixed

[Twokidsnosleep]

This was my brainstorming for the rear tire fix:

Attempt 1: Ca glue, hold and use kicker...no I need to clamp it in place somehow

Attempt 2: Tamiya ABS glue blue (bottle)..melted some rubber but not stick well

Attempt 3: brass spike drilled into either side and Ca glued everything in...Yes, success. Physical hold of brass spike + glue kept tire crack closed

[Stokesy44]

After all the beautiful exquisite innovation and craftsmanship, its great to see a brutally effective solution being employed to save the day.

Awesome skills mate

[Twokidsnosleep]

After all the beautiful exquisite innovation and craftsmanship, its great to see a brutally effective solution being employed to save the day.

Awesome skills mate

Thank you kind and noble sir
I have to thank my tooth training as I always remember mechanical properties + glue or bonding will hold things in for the longterm

[digger303]

Good fix nothing like the old glue and pin method. I do suspect it may reoccur though when I think why it broke originally....it must have had a degree of stretch.
However I don't wish that upon you and truly hope it doesn't happen.

[Twokidsnosleep]

Good fix nothing like the old glue and pin method. I do suspect it may reoccur though when I think why it broke originally....it must have had a degree of stretch.
However I don't wish that upon you and truly hope it doesn't happen.

I trimmed the internal of the rubber as well to take off some pressure

[digger303]

Good fix nothing like the old glue and pin method. I do suspect it may reoccur though when I think why it broke originally....it must have had a degree of stretch.
However I don't wish that upon you and truly hope it doesn't happen.

I trimmed the internal of the rubber as well to take off some pressure

Good thinking ninty nine

[Kevthemodeller]

Lovely detailed engine work Scott and a superb save on the tyre

[bfrd]

This was my brainstorming for the rear tire fix:

Attempt 1: Ca glue, hold and use kicker...no I need to clamp it in place somehow

Attempt 2: Tamiya ABS glue blue (bottle)..melted some rubber but not stick well

Attempt 3: brass spike drilled into either side and Ca glued everything in...Yes, success. Physical hold of brass spike + glue kept tire crack closed

Might be time to try out that rubberized resin?

[Twokidsnosleep]

This was my brainstorming for the rear tire fix:

Attempt 1: Ca glue, hold and use kicker...no I need to clamp it in place somehow

Attempt 2: Tamiya ABS glue blue (bottle)..melted some rubber but not stick well

Attempt 3: brass spike drilled into either side and Ca glued everything in...Yes, success. Physical hold of brass spike + glue kept tire crack closed

Might be time to try out that rubberized resin?

Hmmm good idea
First I need to learn cad design program, manipulation into all the programs for slicing and dicing and dial in on my printer settings
I have not printed a 100% perfect thing yet

[digger303]

This was my brainstorming for the rear tire fix:

Attempt 1: Ca glue, hold and use kicker...no I need to clamp it in place somehow

Attempt 2: Tamiya ABS glue blue (bottle)..melted some rubber but not stick well

Attempt 3: brass spike drilled into either side and Ca glued everything in...Yes, success. Physical hold of brass spike + glue kept tire crack closed

Might be time to try out that rubberized resin?

Hmmm good idea
First I need to learn cad design program, manipulation into all the programs for slicing and dicing and dial in on my printer settings
I have not printed a 100% perfect thing yet

With that sort of determination I'm sure you will master it.
Supposedly the only thing different between your set up and the big commercial ones is their software compensates for a lot of the variables where as you have to set each one up yourself and do a lot more thinking about how to execute the job in hand. I don't have that drive to do that....so hats off to you and best wishes in this endevour.

[BigWall]

Nice save! The bike is really looking brilliant!