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Morning all. :hi:

This is not a model, but a modelling adjacent tool.

I recently became aware of the Dspiae vice. Although I have no need or want of such a tool, I did appreciate the engineering behind it and decided to build my own version and thought it might make an interesting blog.

This is mostly made from metal from my scrap bin, the only new metal I bought was some 30x30mm EN1A for the main body.

Before starting the build I wanted to have a practice of the ball joint mechanism as this seemed the most complicated. I used a scrap of aluminium and based on this changed some of the dimensions, including the diameter of the ball.

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The build started with the base. This was made from two parts, some 5mm steel plate recovered from an old office chair, and some 10mm aluminium left over from a previous build.

The ali plate was brought to dimension first and a hole pattern drilled and counter-bored. Then the steel plate was brought to dimension, the same hole pattern drilled, but this time the holes were tapped for M4. Finally, with the plates bolted together, a 8.5mm hole was drilled and tapped for M10 to take the stud that will have the ball rod fitted. The ali plate is only there to give additional thickness for this thread, 15mm instead of 5mm if just the steel plate was used.

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The stud was then turned and knurled on the lathe and an M6 hole drilled and tapped for the ball rod. The stud is just to give the rod some extra support. The rod itself is just a length of 6mm silver steel with a 12 mm ball at one end.

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Once assembled, that was the base finished.

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Next I made a start on the main event, the vice jaws. As mentioned I had bought some 30x30 EN1A for this part, a chunk was cut off and the ends squared and brought down to 40mm. A 5mm hole was drilled all the way though, and half of it tapped M6. The part was then flipped in the vice and the hoe opened up to 8.5mm to the half way point.

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The last operation on this end was to drill the 12mm hole for the ball, and mill a 7mm slot. All edges were chamfered to eliminate sharp edges.

After that I just need to turn up a quick thumb screw which is used to lock the vice in position.

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And that's as far as I got this weekend. At the moment the vice is just a block of steel, however the ball joint works exactly as planned. The chamfer on the underside allows a nice range of motion, and the slot allows the vice to be turned 90 degrees to horizontal.

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That's it for now, will post more if there is interest.
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Can never have enough tools and it's nice being able to build your own.
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Loving this :banana:
Something about knurling…gotta get me the tool for it and get back to the metal lathe!!!
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Really nice work, very professional
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Cheers all. :th:

Scott, don't buy one, make one. ;)

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Did a little bit on this yesterday. I don't like to run the machines too late in the evening out of respect to my neighbours.

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The surface is perfectly smooth despite the tooling marks, though I may run some sandpaper over it jut to give at a more aesthetic finish.
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It's taken me awhile to understand what's going on here. I'm wondering how the jaws will look.

Keep posting, it's a great project. I really appreciate the skill in making one's own implements. Especially when opposed to buying sub par tools etc.
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Watching me taking notes
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A very good Friday morning all.

A little more progress, the moving jaw. This was cut (by hand, very good exercise) from the 30x30 bar and faced so it was parallel, and a small chamfer added. This is to allow it to close flush with the fixed jaw as all endmills have a radius, so leave a slight fillet in the corner.

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Obviously it's way too tall, so it was roughed down to within .5mm, then the two parts flycut together to get a perfectly even top surface.

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Which now leaves this, ready for the next operations.

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As I always say when seeing posts like this.

I don't know what it is, but I likes it! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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I didn't get much time this weekend as I was at the range, and yesterday was my wedding anniversary.

I did manage to get the holes in for the leadscrew and guide pins. This started with the two vice jaws clamped together in the vice and three 5mm holes drilled all the way though. The outer two were then reamed to 6mm for a sliding fit on the guide pins. The moving jaw (which was at the top) was then tapped halfway though for M6.

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With the moving jaw removed, the central hole was opened up to 7mm and counterbored 8.5mm to produce a pocket to accept the spring.

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Finally the moving jaw was also counterbored 8.5mm and the rest of the M6 thread tapped.

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After that a quick dry fit with a bolt showed everything seems to work, the spring compresses fully and the jaws close tightly.

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Next up will be making the lead screw and knob.
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Wow. Keep going. It will be a little metal masterpiece
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 3:06 pm Wow. Keep going. It will be a little metal masterpiece
No I cannot get a mill. Nono no no Nono no
BUT lathes and mills are like hand and glove :thumb1: :whistle: :D
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Cheers Gents,

And Diggers right Scott. You know you want one. :twisted:

Another couple of parts completed, the leadscrew and leadscrew thumb screw.

Both were very satisfying to make and involved several operations, and I'm pleased that I nailed the dimensions.

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I did a little more on this yesterday evening.

The original design appeared to only use the tensions of the spring to keep the leadscrew in place. I wasn’t completely happy with this design as vices generally have the leadscrew retained in the fixed jaw. After a bit of thinking I came up with a simple design.

The lead screw has a portion near the thumb screw that is 7mm diameter, and goes into the 7mm hole in the fixed jaw. However I had turned a rebate 2mm deep and 3mm wide in this section.

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I made up a brass pin. This is 10mm long, 4.1mm diameter, and has a 5mm diameter semicircle milled in one end.

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I then drilled a 4.2mm hole from the underside of the fixed jaw which was tapped M5 just over half way down. This hole intersects the hole previously drilled for the leadscrew. This was for the brass pin that you can just about see in the pic. I had filed a small notch in the pin so I could orientate it.

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Effectively with the lead screw installed the brass pin locates in the notch and is held in place with a M5 grub screw. This retains the leadscrew in place. The brass will not gall the leadscrew as it wears, and can be tightened to remove any play. I will still use the spring as I have already milled the features for it.

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Afternoon all.

I've had an enjoyable morning in the workshop and finished up this project. There were just a few last operations that need to be completed.

First up was flycutting all the surfaces and adding chamfers. Then a series of holes were drilled and reamed in the tops of the moving and fixed jaws.

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These are to allow pins to be installed (more on these later).

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And that's it. Here's all the parts before final assembly. I added some shrink wrap to the pins. All the parts have been coated with PTFE to stop them oxidising, I may later chemically blacken them.

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And in it's natural environment. As can be seen now, the pins are to hold the parts and can be moved as need to fit irregular shapes. They can also be removed and the jaws used instead.

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As I said at the start of this thread, I'm not sure I will actually use this vice, but it's been a fun project and it's there if I ever need it.
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Very nicely made, well done.
Just a idea , but if you made up some other pins of varying diameters it might be useful as a bending jig too.

These fractal vices are fascinating vices in my mind at least .


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That is a work of art
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Well you should be very proud of this :th:
That is a fantastic vice, made all by yourself with your own mitts
Awesome!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Cheers gents.
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