Naboo N-1 Starfighter (1/48 - AMT)

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*** DrSprue's Naboo Starfighter - where we are so far - from the Summer Sci-Fi SiG 2017 ***

Hi guys!
OK, this is a continuation build of my AMT 1/48th Naboo Starfighter (with LEDs) that I was doing on the Sci-Fi SiG build during the summer. I did not finish it, even though it was extended. I ran out of time, and not to blame the fact I had to find another kit because of a glue spill, I just didn't have the right tools I should have had, especially for painting. Welcome to its continued build and thank you to all for following what I was doing, especially Lysus for making it happen. Its got many LEDs (including a miniature lighting of R2D2) and I have taken many pics so far of the build, most of what I will show will be in the next few posts to follow.

1st a small (short) review from the older Naboo startup.
(NOTE: If you would like to review some of that work, from the Sifi SIG, please visit this link, if you have the time.)
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The box and sprues.....
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I used bleach to remove the chrome plating.
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Decals and clear parts.
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A close Cockpit view, R2D2 location and pilot.
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The complete Instructions
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Next I will show all the pictures of the build for the last few months in sections. Many of which are related to the LEDs placed within this structure. It was so much more than the Kit itself.
Thank you for stopping by and looking! (especially those that followed me this summer) :cheers2:
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Watching for sure
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i'll be watching too
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Yep - pull me up a seat :pop:
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Nice! Best thing in the prequels - SHINY SHIPS! :pop:

Did any manufacturer ever release Queen Amidala's Naboo transport - the ultimate shiner?
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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Oh wow, thanks guys! I was hoping someone would order some popcorn.

Yea, I took many pictures over the last month and almost thought that it was not gonna happen at all! I experimented many different ways (thank god I had that other Naboo that got glue spilt on it for experimentation) It is in precisely showing the blue glow in the engines... If you look at the design of those dual engines of that scifi model, there is no way (short of movie making) to show an engine blast. Its too closed up! At least for the plastic AMT models that I have here, it is.

I think its because I was into engineering all my life that got me stuck on doing this approach to show this effect with the engines and look right. I think it worked and I have tons of pictures and some drawings I am going to sit down in the next few days (if not towards the end of next week) to show this and enter it all into Flicker.

This weekend is gone for me with building stuff with promises I have to keep. No issues tho, I still have got alot of work to do on this and will post it all next week. I know its gonna blow your mind. So hold on to your hat... Your not going to believe how many LEDs are in this thing... and where they are!

Look at the top left corner Naboo with the rear engine exhaust below.. I think I got close to that effect!
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Yes I know about a week later than planned for this, but thats me with modeling it seems. A week late and a dollar short, as they say.

Here is the current layout of my Naboo project so far which took quite a while to do and compile photos.
The top few pieces showing a fuselage both chromed and top sprues and some small parts are from my old model that was replaced by a new ones below. Those were the leftover TET spill pices now used for testing.

I will attack what has been done so far with the wing section in this post and shown at the bottom.
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OK, LEDs to me are very simple display devices to deal with being in engineering most of my life. Plastic model kits are still a hard thing for me (not to build) but with painting, at the moment tho, this is not an issue yet but one that I hope to accomplish soon.

When I got my Naboo for my 1st ever build on this forum, I said, no problem, its simple, we have many months to do it and I’ll have a lot of time to put a bunch of LEDs into it. I was more worried about the paint colors at 1st. The cockpit LED display will look cool and the engine having that blue exhaust will look neat, not to mention the LED laser light as well, up front in the bottom area. This is the main laser that took down that starship in the phantom movie. I will have 2 leds there too if you remember.

I will not talk about the Laser lights, R2D2 led or the cockpit leds yet but will in future updates. I concentrated everything on the engine exhaust for this post. As I found out later this would have stopped me cold if I started doing that at 1st long before I spilt TET all over the wing areas. That was a major mojo killer for me for a while as well. I bought this kit twice.

I drew a diagram or even better made a picture of the side of the engine exhaust areas where this is the hardest issues I had to tackle here. Keep in mind; I was into engineering long before I came back into modeling. Hmm, in modeling this may hurt me more I think, the more I get into this. I still can’t paint a barn door, but pushing electrons used to be easy for me.

OK, more of this LED display construction. I think you can see what I saw with the integral structure of the connection points that held the rear thin wing shafts below. No light escape areas. At all.

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There is no easy way to get leds to push the light onto the areas shown in the movie, short of the digital effects that I am sure was used back in the 90’s. How to get an LED on the left to illuminate the rim area on the right that surrounds that drum with that pointy thing.

Here is an actual view of the engine exhaust area. (ok turned the other way)
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OK what do we do now to show LED stuff? I tried many experiments to somehow sneak a blue led (or many leds) to get this thing to glow and look a bit real (movie wise)

The 1st experiment was to put an LED in the exhaust area with very tiny holes mounted all around it (here, just a few in 1 area to test this) Naaww, not good at all. Too much pin-cushion like effects. Even tho it does not look very blue? … it is in real life, but silly looking and ILM would laugh at it too.
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Next was a complete rounding of the exhaust point like area thingy exiting from the engine drum similar to the above but using a greatly modified redesign to somehow get the blue led to shine onto that point. Note the green standoff sprue below to hold a very weak exhaust port.
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Here is the led test below using this second approach. It seems a bit bright at one angle but almost gone on another. Note: that the LED is very bright here but only in these pictures. Its not that bright in real life, and its more blue-ish as well.
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Its OK kindof??… but it is very hard to see at many angles. If you were to look from the front you could not see anything. Nope, this is not good enough as well and if you saw it on my bench with this camera at that angle you would say… Hmmm, its ok but seems very weak.

The last and most successful approach and one that I went with towards the middle of last month is the following redesign of the engine exhaust areas. Inside that curve of the top half of the engine area you can see on the right a few holes I drilled into it to start with. Then to the left with a large final hole and some removal of that areas on the pointy posts below (which is a bit blurry and missing the points). I made them as wide as I could without messing up the structure.

Both sides would have that large hole, sanded down rim and even the long pointy drum post that was opened on the edge to allow the Krystal Clear to pipe the light out of the LED. Look at my drawing below this for a better Idea of what I did.
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This allowed me to position 1 of the 4 LEDs in a position that got the light pipe effect on the Micro Krystal Klear that wrapped around it as a replacement of the rim.
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As just mentioned, I am replacing the RIM with Micro Krystal Clear to form a light pipe.
The top pic, normal rim from the kit. Second pic, the new modified rim area with the light pipe.
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Please notice I spent many weeks just applying Micro Krystal Clear over and over (after careful sculpting) into the engine areas at an angel that would allow maximum light out of it. I put down an application in 4 areas on both sides, (8 total, one for each LED) trimmed to shape and then another coat of KK. I think I did three or four coats.

Copying the rim at the engine area of the engine exhaust port was the best way to travel the light around that point and still keep the structure of the model. It was almost the same as the model but now it had a clear ring around it. See below where that rim is and how it glows when the engine is on with just one port side.
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Side view of just the top port side with power.
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There is a Krystal Klear port under each LED on both the left and right halves of the wings. 8 total as you can see below. NOTE, there is small notches every 90 degrees showing a small gap. These are holding posts for the exhaust pointy like shaft thingies. A complete rim of KK could have held it, but I chose that for strength here. They lock in solid and when I need to paint it soon they could break off too easy. Yes I know the purists will be screaming at me, but dang! If I see any more LEDs in these wing areas, Im gonna loose my mind. I could have built this kit 9 times already. When the LEDs are on though it does look like a nice glow around those areas similar to the movie at any angle.

You can also see the two wires going from the middle of the wing (buried into the wing grooves) and held by putty. There were 3 grooves on each side. I put 2 wires (+ and -) into 2 grooves and the last not used. Its not just artistic license here, its really the only way to get wires out to the LEDs and only remove some detail from the bottom.

The wire is 30 gauge wire wrap wire you can find on fleabay. Hopefully it will be invisible when the fuselage is connected and painted. There will only be one groove visible now but that is at the bottom. The top groove is negative polarity, the bottom is positive for a 5 volt connection. Even though you can see a few resistors here I am using a total of 100 ohms for each wing with 4 LEDs in parallel. You can see the schematic for that in the drawing.
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Here it is fully powered up: Notice the glow on the light pipes directly under the LEDS. The outer two has the pointy posts under them but no point tips, but Im sure you get the idea with that. These were test ones.
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A back view.
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Back view, closed up with no pointy post assemblies at all. I think you can see the nice uniform glow.
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Well that’s it for the moment. The pointy posts lips on both need to be carved to fit both sides when closed (as well as the points attached) They are so small and breakable I did not complete them yet, what you see are my test ones from the old model.

You can also see below the four 90 degree sections cut out for the leds to pipe out the light into the Krystal Clear rim shrouded around the engine exhaust. See the drawing #2 up above again to understand how I got that led light to creep out just along the edge if you still dont see what I did here. It even behooved me a few times when making it.
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Finally: You may have not seen a blocking black paint interior here for a very good reason. It will be on the outside when I put the gloss black down, covered by Alcal II Chrome or whatever I use. Here is why.
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The yellow absolutely destroys the blue LED light as you can see on the middle picture. I have 3 images here. The 1st one shows the raw blue LED light alone. The last drawing on the right has the LED which is behind it and just one coat of black paint over the top. No light leak at all. I think if this were white plastic, it would glow like crazy. Im not sure, this is my humble opinion based on what Im seeing here. Any thots about this please reply.

This along with the fuselage bottom with the laser LEDS and cockpits LEDS will be my next update but I got to get back to my Space SIG rocket so it may be a short while. I may tho put in the lighting of R2D2 which I am almost done with as well, so maybe soon with him.
Thank you for stopping by and looking! :cheers2:
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Woah, that is a lot to digest
Looking great, loving the lights
Great to see this back on line
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:48 am Woah, that is a lot to digest
Looking great, loving the lights
Great to see this back on line
Yea I waited too long and really had a tuff time explaining this. Now Im so exhausted with the typing this alone I have to add this funny comic here I found by googling stuff about model building.

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Here is just a small (Yes hopefully very short) show and tell with pictures of R2D2's head that will fit on top of the fuselage. No paint other than interior Black XF-1 (for light leak issues) and then gloss white Tamiya X-2, to help reflect the LED colors internally.

Here is a mock up position of the ship and R2D2 (This was a pic of the old R2, that was damaged by TET, now replaced). Notice the small hole I put in his optical light area for the leds.
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Two very (I mean very) small Red and Blue surface mount LEDs on a tiny printed circuit board.
The pic image at the left is a zoomed in view of those SMD leds. They are both a little less than 2mm long.
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Painted and wired up to my controller. (notice it is the back of the PCB, the leds are on the other side.)
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Powered up to show off the colors, 1st one is OFF, then RED then BLUE light coming out of his head.
I also put a small piece of 1.2mm fiber optic wire in the area of his head that shows these LEDs.
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OK your asking me is the fiber optic wire (I got this from an older DVD home stereo player) and the LED almost same size...less than 2mm?? Yes they are. Could I have used longer LEDs here? Yes I could. Am I insane? Yes I am.

These are yet to be painted on the outside. For acrylic all I have is some Tamiya's and I know they are not good for hand-painting. Need to get some Vallejo model paints soon for this as well as the cockpit stuff I still need to do.

Thank you for stopping by and looking! :cheers2:
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