Dr Sprue's 1/48 Monogram Hawker Hurricane

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:58 am

OK guys, yup this will be my 1st airplane on this forum (or anywhere really) that Im going to try and do. Yes we do call them (me) noobs!

and not only am I coming in a bit late, and seems to think I am a doctor of sprues (but that is really just a fun joke), but I have a model I just found in my stash that I didnt even know I had.

When I saw hurricane I said, ohhh myyyy. Im gonna to join the ISM weather team to start sharing some cool stuff with you guys and mostly LEARN. Please have patience, and dont be afraid to comment to me about anything. I could use anyone's help..especially with aircraft, and especially with RAF aircraft being Im from the US. Ive really only have just started here recently tho, been out if it for a long time. I do love anything tho that flies!

Ok now to makes things even more crazy, my kit is complete but when I bought it 20 years ago it came like this in a plastic bag (no box) at one of our dollar stores called ACME surplus, similar to pound-land.

I did find the exact box though from the net that would have came with this kit by the number in the instructions and decals. The kit number would have been 6802-300 or just 6802. I tracked it down for reference. Im sure if it was sold to a hobby shop or something this box seemed to be the one I had. I know this was a monogram resale to acme for some reason without this box, so at some time it may have been a rebox after 1970? (No 1964 with the PA90 Platickit version... wow!) This was released in bag form in the 90's when I bought it. I like boxes but for 99 cents? who could go wrong with it.

So tomorrow I will break it down (and open this bag... OOB, out of baggg?? ) and take pictures of everything and start this cool GB with you guys and show all the sprues, instructions, decals, etc. As well as hope to make some cool info about it too. Please wish me luck and also that I dont spill glue all over it, like I did my last kit

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:24 pm

Alright, I opened the bag and some parts were off the tree but most looked really nice and still on the sprue. The canopy and decals are in good shape too. We know tho that an old inexpensive monogram kit will have raised panel lines and rivets, but most wing areas are ok, decals are nice but very reflective. They dont seem to be too thick tho. This is what I expected being that I viewed so many of your (ISM peeps) review videos where everything newer from airfix all the way to trumpeter, dragon and so forth have really great details, but again.... at 99 cents for my 1st aircraft and being in good shape is just awesome!!

here is an expanded view of everything (not too many parts, hmmm...I know I built this kit when I was a kid?)

Lets get a bit closer. (I went over all the parts and its all there with almost no damage!)

It has options for 8 missles and two bombs, as well as different gun layouts. Not bad Monogram!... Hasagawa are great planes but missed this I think, when keeping this in mind for a sale too kids

It seems to have 5 different variations. Two Mk IIC's, a MkIID and two Mk IV's.

Very poor cockpit detail tho.. maybe some scratch here could really help this kit out!

Here is a back view of the fuselage and main wings.

I had to get close for this shot!! Notice NO copyright even though they printed that word? how come? I dont know?
Please give me your thoughts on this, it seems odd.

Close look at the decals (Note enhanced to show the white areas better!)

1- The next update Ill scan in and print the instructions. (not too many pages for this small kit)
2 - Give an unbiased view of this awesome plane, maybe a wiki or two and I hope some cool pictures.
3 - And start the build! WOOOOT!!

Cymru · Post by **Cymru** » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:45 pm

Go to it!

SkyPainter303 · Post by **SkyPainter303** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:41 am

I love to build old Monogram kits. When I do a Monogram kit, I usually go for the 70s white boxes. I recently did the F-4 Phantom II in 1/48 and right now have a 1/72 Dornier Do17Z in primer. It looks like your kit will go together well; probably much better than a newer re-pop of the same kit.

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:59 pm

Love the art on these old kits.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:52 pm

Lysus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:59 pm Love the art on these old kits.

yes I do wish I had the older white box or even better yet, the 1964 yellow covered painting on the 1st release that I am showing at the top. Got that from scalemates or maybe an evilbay image, dont remeber now.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:07 am

Here are the instructions for the Hawker Hurricane by Monogram, seems to have been a copy used all the way back to 1964! Truly a classic with photographs built into many pages like we have over the past few years but recently the ones we have now are all 3D images with great artwork. Times have changed. PLEASE Note, this is in Flickr image and was scanned in very large, so click on any image, then click again, wait a bit and it will zoom you into the image very clearly with pan. You can even down load it if you want too as well.

Page 1 and 2

Page 3 and 4

Page 5 and 6

BobM · Post by **BobM** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:09 am

Those instructions are cool! But what is that stuff scribbled all over... oh, its words! Actual instructions on how to put it together! And it tells you WHAT you are putting together... Ah... the good old days.

Seems like a good investment of 99 cents! Good luck!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:43 pm

Here is a sample video I found about my "truck"... This Hurricane is similar to my build but a much later version, a Mk XII. My kit is an optional Mk IIC, Mk IID or a Mk IV so a bit earlier. I have yet to determine which version I will build tho. Any thoughts about this, please respond to me if you can, and being that I am american model building newbie and so needing your help, it would be so appreciated!

This particular airframe (a 1942 Mk XIIa, 5711, registered ‘G-HURI’) was originally flown by the Royal Canadian Air Force during the war, before being acquired by the Historic Aircraft Collection in 2002, and housed at the Imperial War Museum Duxford, in Cambridgeshire.

[youtube]Es2ZN2uzAws[/youtube]

My next post will be an intro into Hawker Hurricane's specification including weapons layout and some pictures mostly about the II C, D or IV.

Thanks for looking!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:22 am

Here are some cool specs and pics of the Hurricane and it does reflect my Monogram kit which has optional Mk IIC, Mk IID or a Mk IV schemes. Please enjoy!

The last of the 14,583 Hurricanes built, s/n PZ865, . A Mk IIc version, originally known as "The Last of the Many" and owned by Hawker, this aircraft is now flown by the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight. Only 12 (including three Sea Hurricanes) are in airworthy condition worldwide, although many other non-flying examples survive in various air museums.

Specifications (Hurricane Mk.IIC)
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.84 m)
Wingspan: 40 ft 0 in (12.19 m)
Height: 13 ft 1½ in (4.0 m)
Wing area: 257.5 ft² (23.92 m²)
Empty weight: 5,745 lb (2,605 kg)
Loaded weight: 7,670 lb (3,480 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 8,710 lb (3,950 kg)
Powerplant: 1 × Rolls-Royce Merlin XX liquid-cooled V-12, 1,185 hp (883 kW) at 21,000 ft (6,400 m)

Performance
Maximum speed: 340 mph (547 km/h) at 21,000 ft (6,400 m) [N 12]
Range: 600 mi (965 km)
Service ceiling: 36,000 ft (10,970 m)
Rate of climb: 2,780 ft/min (14.1 m/s)
Wing loading: 29.8 lb/ft² (121.9 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.15 hp/lb (0.25 kW/kg)

Armament
Guns: 4 × 20 mm (.79 in) Hispano Mk II cannon
Bombs: 2 × 250 or 500 lb (110 or 230 kg) bombs

Doctor Sprue's Photo-booth --- well, just borrowed from worldwarphotos website & the wiki!
http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/ ... hurricane/
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Mk II C
Hurricane Mk II(A) Series 1 equipped with new and slightly longer propeller spinner and fully replaced the machine-gun armament with four 20 mm (.79 in) Hispano Mk II cannons, two per side. Hurricane IIA Series 2 became the Mk IIC in June 1941, using a slightly modified wing. The new wings also included a hardpoint for a 500 or 250 lb (230 or 110 kg) bomb, and later in 1941, fuel tanks. By then, performance was inferior to the latest German fighters, and the Hurricane changed to the ground-attack role, sometimes referred to as the Hurribomber. The mark also served as a night fighter and intruder.

Wartime colour photo of Hurricane IIC BE500 flown by Sqn Ldr Denis Smallwood of 87 Sqn in the RDM2 -Special Night-scheme and used on intruder operations 1941–1942

Hawker Hurricane Mk IIC KZ466

Hawker Hurricane Mk IIC 1943

Hurricane Mk IIC trop HL844 “Sir Alasdair”

(((you've got mail!!)))
Mail being loaded into a Hurricane Mk IIC of No 1697 Air Despatch Letter Service Flight at B2 Bazenville Normandy

Mk II D
Hurricane Mk II(B) conversion armed with two 40 mm (1.57 in) anti-tank autocannons in a gondola-style pod, one under each wing and a single Browning machine gun in each wing loaded with tracers for aiming purposes. The first aircraft flew on 18 September 1941 and deliveries started in 1942. Serial built aircraft had additional armour for the pilot, radiator and engine, and were armed with a Rolls-Royce gun with 12 rounds, later changed to the 40 mm (1.57 in) Vickers S gun with 15 rounds. The outer wing attachments were strengthened so that 4G could be pulled at a weight of 8,540 lb (3,874 kg).[142] The weight of guns and armour protection marginally impacted the aircraft's performance. These Hurricanes were nicknamed "Flying Can Openers", perhaps a play on the No. 6 Squadron's logo which flew the Hurricane starting in 1941.

20 Squadron RAF pilots with Japanese Trophies by Hurricane Mk IID

A pilot of No 6 Squadron RAF stands by his Hurricane Mk IID Tank Buster at Shandur Egypt 1943

Hurricane Mk IID BP188 JV-Z of No 6 Squadron RAF based at Shandur Egypt

Mk IV
The last major change to the Hurricane was the introduction of the "universal Wing", a single design able to mount two 250 or 500 lb (110 or 230 kg) bombs, two 40 mm (1.57 in) Vickers S guns, drop tanks or eight "60 pounder" RP-3 rockets. Two .303 in Brownings were fitted to aid aiming of the heavier armament.[143] The new design also incorporated the improved Merlin 24 or 27 engines of 1,620 hp (1,210 kW), equipped with dust filters for desert operations. The Merlin 27 had a redesigned oil system that was better suited to operations in the tropics, and which was rated at a slightly lower altitude in keeping with the Hurricane's new role as a close-support fighter. The radiator was deeper and armoured. Additional armour was also fitted around the engine.

Hurricane Mk IV fighter bomber KX877 parked on an airfield April 1943

Hurricane Mk IV D-KZ193 fitted with two 40mm Vickers Type S guns and a Vokes tropical filter on the ground

Hawker Hurricane 69 With Rockets

Armourers fit rocket projectiles to Hurricane Mk IV of No 170 Wing in a dispersal on an airfield in Burma

ASSEMBLY AND CUTOUT
Hawker Hurricane Assembly MW336

Hurricane Mk IIC assembly LF772 LF773 LF774

Hurricane assembly and production wing center section

Hawker Hurricane assembly radiator

Cutout - - - please zoom in!

Thank you for stopping by and looking!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:08 pm

Even before I started this kit, I knew I would be building some scratch, especially with the cockpit.

This is really the only part in the pit, one figure (which I will not include) and the backing part that holds him.

Then glue the right edge backing part and slap the figure frame in, wiggle the decal on half of the fuselage front (yea, and keeping it on the decal backing as well) and its done??

look at section "3" above this.

its terrible...

Flickr

Really no problem, I am going to copy an out of print Eduard seat, floor and the tiller, do a little cutting, maybe even use the basic structure of the hurricane from an Airfix hurricane layout I have a copy of from the instructions (That has beautiful components for the pit) and just rig it into my 99 cent old monogram kit. Keep in mind, this kit was fabbed in the 60's. Back then, no one cared for the cockpit complexity's we have now.

Heres a real seat from a hurricane Mk II I found on the net.

Shouldnt be that hard to do with some Evergreen I have in stock.

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:43 pm

Nice and ambitious! I like it. Why on earth would they just have the pilot sitting in the tub?

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:17 pm

Lysus wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:43 pm Nice and ambitious! I like it. Why on earth would they just have the pilot sitting in the tub?

Yea isnt that funny!!

Maybe they think he needs to wash his close.... on the fly??

Post by **Tomcat64** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:15 pm

Looking forward to seeing what you do with this classic Tony.

I remember the kits from way back could be pretty sparse in the cockpit but they did usually give the pilot a seat!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:27 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:15 pm Looking forward to seeing what you do with this classic Tony.

I remember the kits from way back could be pretty sparse in the cockpit but they did usually give the pilot a seat!

Yea, I bet Neil. Never really built that many planes, mostly cars and stuff back in the day but yup, very odd not to see at least a cheap version or one of those 90 degree stands just hinting of one. This kit just floated his but in the air!

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SkyPainter303 · Post by **SkyPainter303** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:58 am

Kit makers didn't think anybody would be peering in thru the canopy. The idea was that viewers just need to see the pilot's head and shoulders thru the glazing.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:25 pm

OK so far I did some work on the seat. I hope you Hawker aircraft lovers are not too hard with me, but all I did was to copy the seat layout from an old drawing I found on the net, then printed it out as a template.

Then cut out the paper to attach it...

To some evergreen plastic with a glue stick so it wont move, then cut it out slowly with a new xacto blade.

Rounded it a little with a thicker xacto handle and even put it into boiling water for a few minutes to make it a bit rounder, although it was not that far off so a little bending would have worked just as nice.

Then cut it slowly, did some bends at the edges, glued it with TET and it came out like this.

So far it looks OK. The airfix HH pit from that kit (released a few years ago) would have been better at least for the backdrop, but this quick hack looks fine. The pilot to the right is just a comparison, but he is not going to go into the cockpit at all..

. Yea, Im sure most of you would agree.

So next is a bit more scratch for some home-brew seat-belts, edge work detail and such to make this monogram model a bit better looking Hurricane than what they planed for us kids, back in the day, with a closed canopy and head looking through it. I am going to try and cut the canopy too and slide it back, but well see how it goes for my 1st scratch building project ever. Thanks for looking!

Post by **Tomcat64** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:47 am

Nice work on that seat Tony - that's very tidy!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:25 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:47 am Nice work on that seat Tony - that's very tidy!

Thanks Neil, Im really just doing this to get used to new stuff like scratch, building a very old kit, and .....really everything you guys do to make a model! haha! Just to have fun. If I do any new aircraft next it will be Airfix, Trumpeter, even a newer Italeri 2705 with PE, at least for aircraft and a hawker! This is OK for this SIG tho.. its really gonna test me as an almost beginner. and I have not even thought about the paint work...

Thanks guys as always and dont forget to criticize me, I built some aircraft as a kid and that was a looonng time ago and need your help. Yanno when I think of it, it was this hawker, a few cars and a "flying Banana".

demarcation · Post by **demarcation** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:29 pm

Nice pics of the Hurricanes on the assembly line and great work on the seat!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:15 pm

demarcation wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:29 pm Nice pics of the Hurricanes on the assembly line and great work on the seat!

Oh thanks, yea what an awesome plane, I think they called it the hurricane truck! Did not have the power the spitfire had but from what I understand it could nail tanks like crazy!

I think Im gonna shoot for the Mk IIC with the pair of 20 mm Hispano cannons on each side. I guess like the HL844 “Sir Alasdair” but I got very limited decals tho, so Im not sure yet.

Post by **Tomcat64** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:20 pm

DrSprue wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:15 pm
demarcation wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:29 pm Nice pics of the Hurricanes on the assembly line and great work on the seat!
Oh thanks, yea what an awesome plane, I think they called it the hurricane truck! Did not have the power the spitfire had but from what I understand it could nail tanks like crazy!

I think Im gonna shoot for the Mk IIC with the pair of 20 mm Hispano cannons on each side. I guess like the HL844 “Sir Alasdair” but I got very limited decals tho, so Im not sure yet.

Yep it's a great plane. The Hurricane accounted for more kills in the BoB than the Spitfire. The Spitfire (thoroughbred) was generally used against escort fighters while the Hurricanes (workhorses) went after the bombers.

Stokesy's the guy we need in here for the full info on this period

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:49 pm

Found another modeler out there that made this exact kit and really did a nice job on it as well back about 7 years ago. His version is the 1999 one where mine was bag only in the early 90's. Both kits were from the 1960's mold though. The only difference was the decals were upgraded a bit, but not by much.

You can even see his pilot, but closed canopy tho. Really nice work on it too!

I am still working on a bit of scratch for mine and will post some updates soon.
I will not have the pilot in mine tho as I mentioned.

Still not sure weather the 2 lower 40mm tank busters (see above) or the 4 center wing 20mm cannons yet? It even has the Bombs or the 8 rockets of the Mk IV as well. Hmm.

It took him about 7 months or so and even tho a great modeler, Im sure it was done in steps.

Here is the link to his write up if any-one is interested.
http://www.crazytinker.nl/kitlog/other/ ... icane.html

"Monogram Classic"
"lets see if we can shift this old junk by appealing to nostalgia"

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:01 pm

DrSprue wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:49 pm

"Monogram Classic"
"lets see if we can shift this old junk by appealing to nostalgia"

pourquoi61 · Post by **pourquoi61** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:23 pm

I have a feeling that this ugly duckling will turn out to be a swan when you have done.
Like the seat and the photos are very nice also.
Michael. :fly2:

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:46 am

pourquoi61 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:23 pm I have a feeling that this ugly duckling will turn out to be a swan when you have done.
Like the seat and the photos are very nice also.
Michael.

Thank you Michael. Yea, been doing a bit of scratch on the cockpit area ATM (1st time ever) and its coming out nice. I hope to improve what monogram did and try to do it with out any 3rd party products.

Altho I dont like the cockpit display and this one is all that this kit had and its fairly flat (it is just a decal), but somewhat detailed. Hmm I do wish I had some kind of spare one, but it is a hurricane and fairly unique.

They should have put at least a little color into, hmm not sure this will look OK tho.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:36 pm

Hi Guys (and Gals),
Sorry its been a few days but stuff gets in the way of spruemizzing and fun.
Still doing a bit of scratch and removal of flash and stuff.

Here is some work I did on the forward and mid in-take vents
(I have no idea why monogram would not make the hole even tho they molded the shape of it)...
get out the files & drills.

Then a small piece of guitar wire for the post that is on the real machine..... so super glue did the trick here.

Now something I knew from the beginning and being so close to gluing the wings, this model has operating landing gear!

, and all the strut holding material is in on the lower half of the wing section,

(note I will make it in landing gear extended only, not retracted).

which means...
I am going to have to glue the struts in now and hope I dont break them during body painting

(The unglued wheel is there just for looks). The struts are not glued or painted yet, but I will at least give them a couple silver coats, then wait till the end to do any weathering. 1st tho I have to figure out how to mount them correctly now, with the new scratch gear bay and hope they align correctly when I join the wings to the fuselage. This could be a tuff one.

Any thots are welcome!

Being still in scratch mode I will put in a landing gear bay (being that monogram had an operating mode design, so no bay was molded for this kit) So I cut off a bit of evergreen scale sheet styrene and will glue the gear in and do some detailing next.

I even found the small tank in between the bay doors from a duplicate tank (of all things, a Revell V2 rocket missle platform) that is almost the same size... (ill show that in the next post if it works out ok)

This week I hope to do some more scratch pipe work on the cockpit by stretching some sprue and such before painting that area and do a tiny bit of detail to the landing bay as well. including the funny tank. So, ....thank you all for watching.

Post by **Tomcat64** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:43 am

Nice work on the detailing there Tony.

I'm a little baffled by why you need to add the landing legs at this stage - I'm probably missing something but would they not go in later?

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:17 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:43 am Nice work on the detailing there Tony.

I'm a little baffled by why you need to add the landing legs at this stage - I'm probably missing something but would they not go in later?

Yea, its ticking me off as well Neil, they go in at step 8 per the instructions (before the wings are glued) because Monogram made this mold in the 60's to allow for movable gear for kids (like me at that time).

So all the holding pieces are in the LOWER wing section (not the top)

like you guys had with airfix kits and such. Look at the third picture (the smaller upside down one) up above and youll see the the holding clamps for the main gear on that lower wing. Yea, thats the lower wing section to mount the gear!!

I thought, yea Ill put them on at the end and just slide them over and down. Nope, it will be very hard to do that and make sure they align correctly and look right (along with my scratch bay). Ill just have to be careful during painting to not hit them and snap them. Whats even worse, they are are badly out of alignment as well. They stick out to far and look weird when I test fitted the wings, fuselage and gear with tape. More work, but at least thell be strait at the end. I think!

The instructions can be viewed even closer on page 1 of my post here in the middle where I label it as page 3 and 4. With flickr you can click on it a couple times and zoom in with pan. flickr is so cool.

Post by **Tomcat64** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:40 pm

Aha! Got it - sorry I missed that quirk!

I know you're going to build it wheels down, but for the sake of fitting could you install them wheels up but dry (as per the instructions) to avoid having to work around the extended legs, and then swing them down and glue in place once you're done? Or is that going to be a pain when you've added the detail to the gear bays?

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:01 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:40 pm Aha! Got it - sorry I missed that quirk!

I know you're going to build it wheels down, but for the sake of fitting could you install them wheels up but dry (as per the instructions) to avoid having to work around the extended legs, and then swing them down and glue in place once you're done? Or is that going to be a pain when you've added the detail to the gear bays?

Actually not a bad thought Neil, but, yea, Im doing the scratch build of the landing gear now and will have to modify the lower part of the gear (to look right) and at least mount the bottom part of the gear into the lower section 1st. Im gonna still use the mounts in the lower wing for strength and support, but make the gear bay look like the bay is holding it, but it will still be the lower wing grabbing the entire gear structure.

They went out of there way to make this operational at the expense of extremely poor detail of that area underneath were the bay is. I am going to try and make that look so much better at the cost of something we all wait till the end to do. Put the legs on last. I could be wrong, but other than the cockpit which is completely missing, the rest of the plane looks fairly accurate.

Im gonna try and make the gear bay and support look similar to this (up above), and I even found a tank from an old V2 kit from the (Meillerwagen, the launch platform), I had lying around. Other than the V2, I use it for extra parts. It may not look as great as some Aries or other resin additions Ive seen, or even the nice plastic of the new airfix kit, but it will still be almost 99 cents, for a price in the end and may look right when seeing it from below. (I already had a bit of Evergreen from back in the day on my shelf so what the heck, never did scratch from back then when I bought it, so now I have that chance.)

Come to think of it.. never really did many planes at all short of an X-1 plane, this kit, when I was a boy. Non of which were finished with any kind of final paint work at all.

That... to me... is the really tuff part.

snowman819 · Post by **snowman819** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:00 am

I'm looking forward to seeing how the pipe work turns out.
I haven't built a hurricane in over 35 years.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:18 pm

snowman819 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:00 am I'm looking forward to seeing how the pipe work turns out.
I haven't built a hurricane in over 35 years.

I hope to show it soon.

pourquoi61 · Post by **pourquoi61** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:15 pm

I think that you will work your magic.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:01 pm

Well even tho this is the end of the sig, Im still working on my hurricane. Even tho I came in late, I did not realize how much of an effort this was on my vision and could only work on it a few hours a day at best. I lost vision in my left eye from a stroke I had a few years ago, so that and few other things slow ya down quite a bit. No issues tho because this is still the most fun I have ever had.

I dont know if you remember that this hurricane had no interior, short of display decal and a back-plate (with no seat) for the pilot as well as no undercarriage at all (you can see this in the page before this one) but here is my 1st time scratch built areas of both. I did also try and cut the canopy as well to slide it back, but it is so thick and looks funny now, I may just invest in the one Bob got from squadron. My God Bob that one came out so nice!

Well here is what is done so far!

Canopy

Scratch built cockpit
The old fuselage: with no detail!

The New scratchbuilt ones!
(the display decal did fold up and got clobbered when I used too much solvaset on it so there is none here)

I will wait to put something new in here, it was on a homebrew frame that slid into the display area.

Undercarriage
Old pic from last month showing why monogram did not have an undercarriage because of the play like working gear.

Now my scratch built area based on pics from a Hurricane Mk II images, some airfix, hasagawa and Italeri sprues and many I found online for these Hurricanes.

Note: I folded the two points of the wing pointing towards the front that were badly pointing UP (or down if you were landing)! You can see the slight fold groves I made that may look odd but when looked straight on they were very deformed if left alone. The molding on this wing is terrible in many areas.
Also the the green tank is from an old V2 model with a bit of wire around it. I knew I would get a rocket in here somehow!

And a bit of 30 gauge wirewrap wire from my old days in computers.

There is still many more pieces that need to be applied (as well as the top half of the wing), I did this mostly during the painting process that will come soon to allow better hand painting of the gear because they are installed now, not after the plane is done. I will use my airbrush for the rest but I had to work around the landing gear approach that monogram did for there kid like working hinges for this old model. These will NOT move, like most of us that love a no pilot, landing gear only view of our aircraft. I also modified the gear greatly to look somewhat correct. The tire is just being held there lightly by hand to show the image better. I will still need to add in a better cockpit display, a new thin canopy and modify stuff a bit more.

Well I hope OneSmallStep1966 may be watching this, and yes, it takes a bit longer but with only vision in one eye it can be done. Dont give up. It took a while to figure out the right tools to use and to change the way I used to use stuff, but it worked.

Im not sure what to do now that this sig is over in a few days and where to post my progress, but I will continue to build my hurricane and thanks so much for you peeps that have been following me and giving me such positive comments. It helped out alot.

PS: Well I think this is going to cost a bit more than the 99 cents I paid for it!

TommyKillander · Post by **TommyKillander** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:59 pm

That scratchbuilding work is excellent

Keep up the good work!
I can't wait to see it finished

Tommy

Post by **Tomcat64** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:32 am

That's some really tidy detailing Tony - great work

Keep on building and posting - either in this thread or ship it over to the "Works in progress" section and leave a link here.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:33 pm

Oh thanks Tommy and Neil for your positive comments guys!

Thank you all for stopping by and looking!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:27 pm

This is the end of this sig so im done, thx for lookin

pourquoi61 · Post by **pourquoi61** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:38 pm

What a shame that you were overtaken by time, I have a feeling that this old Monogram kit would have turned out to be a winner.
I do hope that you continue on the model or continue entering builds and SIGS.
Best wishes,
Michael.

Lysus · Post by **Lysus** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:04 pm

I'm probably 50/50 for finishing on time so I know the pain well. Do please continue, though. It's looking awesome and I'd hate the miss it!

Cymru · Post by **Cymru** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:28 pm

Couldn't have put that any better Lysus, carry on regardless..

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:15 am

Hi Guys, Oh I will finish this kit, still learning and changing the way I do things but I am still am having the best time making these kits and so enjoying all the stuff I see done here. I really am having so much fun. It took me a while to get tools and stuff as well (thot I would have it sooner) but no problem.

Im getting the hang of it now i think! Thank you all for being so kind and commenting with such great support!

I will put the link here when I get it from him.

At least its not coming out silly looking like this aircraft did for someone!

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:43 pm

Like I said in a previous post, I will continue the Monogram Hurricane building and keep you all posted if you have the time.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:09 am

Hi Les,

I PM'd you a few weeks ago and and asked about moving this thread but no problem now, im getting the hang of these things on this forum and will open a new post in the Aircraft : modeling work in progress section here if thats ok.

Thanks

Post by **Tomcat64** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:41 am

Hi Tony,

I think you should be ok to just create a thread in this section: viewforum.php?f=34

Leave a link here so folks can find the continuation and then kick off the new thread with a "where we are so far" intro then build at your own pace in the new thread.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:25 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:41 am Hi Tony,

I think you should be ok to just create a thread in this section: viewforum.php?f=34

Leave a link here so folks can find the continuation and then kick off the new thread with a "where we are so far" intro then build at your own pace in the new thread.

Such a really good Idea Neil. Yea I see hes not been on for a while. No problem, I will do that. Ive already been taking many pictures so far of the work on the hurricane over the last few weeks.

Man its been nuts with that kit, I found out that on one part of the wing was warped (well in a way I knew, but I thought when it was glued, one side would outway the other and connect correctly, but when the glue dried after clamp's removed,

nope... it didnt work. lol. I thought it was a pretzel at 1st

(well not that bad, but it was in my mind a way bit off) I did do something to correct that tho and most of my work does not impress me, but this did! I'll show you soon.

Still have to wait for a new canopy to come in from amazon (thanks BobM, got the squadron one) and some other tools, but yea I will post it here this weekend with your tips and stuff.

Thank you so much for your help my friend, this helps me so much. All you guys are awesome with that!

! Ive been here for months now and you would think Ive got the hang of it. I thought I could finish these kits farily fast too, but nope. I even put my Naboo on the shelf too, I did not think time would fly by this fast?? This is my new hobby now

and like Lysus says... so much to learn, so little time.

DrSprue · Post by **DrSprue** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:44 am

OK here is the continuation build of the....

Monogram Hawker Hurricane - Mk IID is in the new Hanger shown below...

Click Here -> viewtopic.php?f=34&t=23344&p=290499#p290499

“Ladies and gentlemen, the Captain has turned on the Fasten Seat Belt sign. If you haven’t already done so, please stow your carry-on luggage underneath the seat in front of you or in an overhead bin. Please take your seat and fasten your seat belt. And also make sure your seat back and folding trays (and the popcorn) are in their full upright position.

If you are seated next to an emergency exit, please read carefully the special instructions card located by your seat. If you do not wish to perform the functions described in the event of an emergency, please ask a flight attendant to reseat you or go to another post.

If you have any questions about our flight today, please don’t hesitate to ask one of our flight attendants. Thank you.”

and for stopping by and your comments everyone, thx